Hey Slip,

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peace & Love


On Apr 23, 7:22 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Now you are delving into my strongest realm which I'm sure greatly
> affects the powerful and revealing dreams that I experience and the
> travel within them that I attribute to quantum dream travel.  See the
> Dreams and Quantum Travel thread, very interesting interaction of
> posts.  Not sure how to link to previous threads, anyone know?
>
> I prefer the term Collective Subconscious which I describe as a realm
> of swirling mental activity, a multiplicity of simultaneous
> subconsciousness which when tapped into, whether in dream or
> subconscious modes, offers unlimited potential for exploration, a
> portal to the infinity of cosmos.  For me it is primordial and near
> future perception.  Not to imply that it is always a beautiful thing
> as there are times of serious thrashing, gnawing and struggle to
> extricate oneself from it.
>
> On Apr 23, 3:49 am, Marco Afonso <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Our collective intelligence is a 'positive' metaphysical
> > balance that maintains the cosmic balance within the subset." - Tinker
>
> > This "collective intelligence" has anything to do with "collective
> > unconscious" by C.G. Jung?
>
> > On Apr 21, 6:21 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > The sum total of energy involved in mankind's interactions on and with
> > > the planet Earth, is the subset.
> > > The energy is cosmic energy.
>
> > > I believe that within the subset free will allows us to act
> > > 'negatively'. Our collective intelligence is a 'positive' metaphysical
> > > balance that maintains the cosmic balance within the subset.
>
> > > peace & Love
>
> > > On Apr 21, 6:26 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > So what exactly is the subset energy as you see it and where is it
> > > > derived from?
>
> > > > I'm thinking you are referring to the energy caused by the mass of
> > > > humanity but I still don't see the disconnect from the cosmos.
>
> > > > On Apr 20, 12:23 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Agreed, that akshay is referring to a personal God.
>
> > > > > I also agree on the cosmic energy. The subset 'Earth energy' is what I
> > > > > believe we do have the ability to affect.
>
> > > > > On Apr 20, 9:44 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I don't think akshay is referring to a collective intelligence.  The
> > > > > > general religious consensus relays prayer petition to a deity by the
> > > > > > name of choice.  I agree that people are lacking the ability to 
> > > > > > focus
> > > > > > properly, perhaps due to their weak belief in their belief or
> > > > > > religious affiliation for personal/peer reasons rather than
> > > > > > spiritual.  Cosmic energy is not contained within any planetary 
> > > > > > realm,
> > > > > > solar system or confined to any specific universe but more so it is
> > > > > > infinite in time and space and far beyond our comprehension to
> > > > > > understand.
>
> > > > > > On Apr 19, 10:54 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Apr 20, 5:35 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > IF prayer is somehow connected to the energy in the cosmos that 
> > > > > > > > makes
> > > > > > > > things occur, then by all means one can try to focus in on that 
> > > > > > > > energy
> > > > > > > > in order to bring about desired change.  I'm always talking 
> > > > > > > > about how
> > > > > > > > I come upon things by simply focusing on my need or in some 
> > > > > > > > cases just
> > > > > > > > focusing on things just coming along whether I need them or not 
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > then they just come around.  Whether this is similar to prayer
> > > > > > > > petition is another question.
>
> > > > > > > I think what you are talking about is the same thing as 
> > > > > > > 'successful'
> > > > > > > prayer. We can manipulate the Yin/Yang of our world through 
> > > > > > > 'focus'
> > > > > > > with the collective intelligence.
>
> > > > > > >   This is a bit off the prayer bit but
>
> > > > > > > > the point is that perhaps there IS another force of energy out 
> > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > that does effect change.  The question is "does the energy 
> > > > > > > > effect
> > > > > > > > change as the result of a prayer petition?"  
>
> > > > > > > Yes, but very few people know how to pray (focus) effectively.
>
> > > > > > > Do we as humans have any
>
> > > > > > > > influence, directly or indirectly on the incidence of cosmic 
> > > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > within the universe?  Personally I don't view focusing on cosmic
> > > > > > > > energy as prayer but a utilization of mental ability to attract 
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > effect change.  I'm sure there is some defining needed here in 
> > > > > > > > order
> > > > > > > > to continue principle analysis.
>
> > > > > > > I think the force we have influence with is contained on Earth and
> > > > > > > controlled by the collective intelligence.
>
> > > > > > > peace & Love- Hide quoted text -
>
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