What is spiritual joy e?

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On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> What is spiritual joy e?
>
> Isn't it that which you abandoned long ago in retributive upheaval
> towards familial indoctrination?
>
> On Apr 23, 7:17 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
>> imagination is GREAT...spiritual joy is BLISS
>>
>> On Apr 23, 7:55 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > To me one of the greatest joys of this glorious Life is the
>> > imagination.
>> > The imagination is the source of all the great accomplishments of
>> > mankind.
>> > We imagine an eternal Life, as a precursor to attaining it within Life
>> > and not becoming dead.
>>
>> > peace & Love
>>
>> > On Apr 24, 3:31 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > the knowledge im talking about is not about the glory of life...to me
>> > > the glory of life is spiritual joy...im not 100% ignorant lol...i know
>> > > enough about a variety of human and physical things to get by...but
>> > > its not the focus of my life ;^)
>>
>> > > On Apr 23, 6:33 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Ignorance is bliss. Not knowing can be the less stressful way of
>> > > > living one's Life.
>> > > > The truth can be painful, but to know the glory of Life makes it worth
>> > > > while.
>>
>> > > > peace & Love
>>
>> > > > On Apr 24, 2:01 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > > u are right, but one must determine if finding an answer is feasible,
>> > > > > if it isnt go find something else to consider. this has led me to
>> > > > > write a little ditty called 'wisdumb, the joy of not knowing'. by the
>> > > > > way, i am not a religion lol...knowledge is not all that its cracked
>> > > > > up to be imo...i would much prefer to be happy and lacking in
>> > > > > knowledge than full of knowledge and unhappy...how about u?
>>
>> > > > > On Apr 23, 5:55 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > > > It seems very incongruous of one so apparently knowledgeable to say
>> > > > > > there are questions we shouldn't ask or expect to gain knowledge
>> > > > > > through asking.
>> > > > > > I've always been crazy, maybe that has kept me from going insane 
>> > > > > > from
>> > > > > > the knowledge gained from asking the questions that you and many
>> > > > > > religions ban.
>>
>> > > > > > peace & Love
>>
>> > > > > > On Apr 23, 9:57 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > > > > i think it is inherantly harmful to try to determine how we got 
>> > > > > > > here,
>> > > > > > > or for what purpose. there are certain questions that we will 
>> > > > > > > never be
>> > > > > > > able to answer and to ask them can lead to exasperation and even
>> > > > > > > mental illness. there are a lot of bright eyed lunatics 
>> > > > > > > inhabiting
>> > > > > > > mental asylums who have tried to climb that mountain only to 
>> > > > > > > realize
>> > > > > > > there is no top. me feeling is that we should introspect, put 
>> > > > > > > out the
>> > > > > > > welcome mat for all things that scratch on our cranium. i think 
>> > > > > > > we all
>> > > > > > > have spirit but that we must polish it if we want it to get 
>> > > > > > > brighter.
>> > > > > > > maybe is we do this a lot we wont have to keep coming back to
>> > > > > > > hell...ooops, i mean earth, in order to try and figure it out
>> > > > > > > again :-)
>>
>> > > > > > > On Apr 20, 1:06 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > Then what put us here, only a supreme entity could have 
>> > > > > > > > devised such a
>> > > > > > > > miraculous creature at the human being.  We are physically too
>> > > > > > > > complicated to have simply derived from a cell.
>>
>> > > > > > > > On Apr 20, 12:16 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > > > > > > Did you ever consider that religion simply fills a void 
>> > > > > > > > > within your
>> > > > > > > > > incomplete self?  Recognizing self and all it's potential 
>> > > > > > > > > overcomes,
>> > > > > > > > > as you say, the frailties of the mind.  Being faithful to a 
>> > > > > > > > > faith
>> > > > > > > > > based belief in a deity that oversees everything in your 
>> > > > > > > > > life is
>> > > > > > > > > merely abandonment of personal responsibility to the self, 
>> > > > > > > > > the who and
>> > > > > > > > > what you are all about.  Every culture experiences the same 
>> > > > > > > > > mortal
>> > > > > > > > > life with all its hardships, diseases and woes regardless of 
>> > > > > > > > > religious
>> > > > > > > > > belief.
>> > > > > > > > > Anthropocentrism seems the main problem affecting the world 
>> > > > > > > > > and it's
>> > > > > > > > > inability to become stable. We have become a disconnected 
>> > > > > > > > > entity,
>> > > > > > > > > separated from our cosmic origin. This disconnect leaves us 
>> > > > > > > > > void of
>> > > > > > > > > the vision necessary for growth beyond the mundane.
>> > > > > > > > > God is a concept derived from ancient philosophies as a 
>> > > > > > > > > means of
>> > > > > > > > > creating tangible relevance to the unknown origins of life. 
>> > > > > > > > > As
>> > > > > > > > > philosophers groped with ideas they failed to reach 
>> > > > > > > > > reasonable truths
>> > > > > > > > > and therefore others injected there own ideas rendering the 
>> > > > > > > > > entire
>> > > > > > > > > concept as infinitely enigmatic.  As science advanced to 
>> > > > > > > > > replace myths
>> > > > > > > > > major shifts in deity belief also took place which 
>> > > > > > > > > ultimately led to
>> > > > > > > > > the use of religious concepts as a way of controlling the 
>> > > > > > > > > mass
>> > > > > > > > > populace.  I think God (the name we use) is the essence of 
>> > > > > > > > > all living
>> > > > > > > > > things and all things perceived to be as in everything you 
>> > > > > > > > > see and
>> > > > > > > > > everything you touch, the energy of life itself.
>> > > > > > > > > Religion implies absolute truth and therefore each religious 
>> > > > > > > > > group
>> > > > > > > > > must persecute those who fall outside of that truth, ergo, 
>> > > > > > > > > religious
>> > > > > > > > > wars and atrocities.  Religion has yet to accomplish 
>> > > > > > > > > anything more
>> > > > > > > > > than duping people and stripping them of their ability to 
>> > > > > > > > > function
>> > > > > > > > > upon their own reason.
>> > > > > > > > > Two people of differing cultures can get along really well 
>> > > > > > > > > but when
>> > > > > > > > > you throw in differing religions they are more apt to want 
>> > > > > > > > > to kill
>> > > > > > > > > each other.
>> > > > > > > > > I don't need religion to love someone, to treat someone 
>> > > > > > > > > equally or to
>> > > > > > > > > have compassion.
>>
>> > > > > > > > > On Apr 19, 11:42 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > > > > > > > > > I decided to start a new post as I originally intended it 
>> > > > > > > > > > to be a
>> > > > > > > > > > response to the Purpose of Life post but felt it took 
>> > > > > > > > > > another
>> > > > > > > > > > direction.
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > First  off, tip of the hat to everyone in here.  I 
>> > > > > > > > > > discovered this
>> > > > > > > > > > group by chance.  Second, purpose to life?  Ah, the 
>> > > > > > > > > > frailties of the
>> > > > > > > > > > mind, I have been walking backwards as I've grown weak in 
>> > > > > > > > > > faith.  I am
>> > > > > > > > > > muslim, I don't think anyone here is immature enough to 
>> > > > > > > > > > negatively
>> > > > > > > > > > comment on such a label, but I do have one thing to say:  
>> > > > > > > > > > When I was
>> > > > > > > > > > more faithful to my religion and consistent with prayers I 
>> > > > > > > > > > felt a
>> > > > > > > > > > sense of completion and calmness.  I could even say that I 
>> > > > > > > > > > at one
>> > > > > > > > > > point I felt that I reached a temporary self 
>> > > > > > > > > > actualization.  It's not
>> > > > > > > > > > the religion, but more or less the idea of maintaining 
>> > > > > > > > > > spirituality
>> > > > > > > > > > that keeps one fulfilled.  Through my recent skepticisms 
>> > > > > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > > analyzations of religion as a whole I have been more 
>> > > > > > > > > > distraught than
>> > > > > > > > > > I've ever been.  Is it an oddysey?  Why does one who has 
>> > > > > > > > > > steered far
>> > > > > > > > > > from ideological beliefs that a supreme entity exists feel 
>> > > > > > > > > > lost and
>> > > > > > > > > > agonizingly stressed?  Wouldn't one be better off just 
>> > > > > > > > > > accepting and
>> > > > > > > > > > following religion knowing that they are abiding by its 
>> > > > > > > > > > rules
>> > > > > > > > > > accordingly?  Isn't that comfort?
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>> > > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
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