no...and if one hasnt experienced spiritual joy, nobody else can describe it to them
On Apr 23, 9:25 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > What is spiritual joy e? > > Isn't it that which you abandoned long ago in retributive upheaval > towards familial indoctrination? > > On Apr 23, 7:17 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > imagination is GREAT...spiritual joy is BLISS > > > On Apr 23, 7:55 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > To me one of the greatest joys of this glorious Life is the > > > imagination. > > > The imagination is the source of all the great accomplishments of > > > mankind. > > > We imagine an eternal Life, as a precursor to attaining it within Life > > > and not becoming dead. > > > > peace & Love > > > > On Apr 24, 3:31 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > the knowledge im talking about is not about the glory of life...to me > > > > the glory of life is spiritual joy...im not 100% ignorant lol...i know > > > > enough about a variety of human and physical things to get by...but > > > > its not the focus of my life ;^) > > > > > On Apr 23, 6:33 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Ignorance is bliss. Not knowing can be the less stressful way of > > > > > living one's Life. > > > > > The truth can be painful, but to know the glory of Life makes it worth > > > > > while. > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > On Apr 24, 2:01 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > u are right, but one must determine if finding an answer is > > > > > > feasible, > > > > > > if it isnt go find something else to consider. this has led me to > > > > > > write a little ditty called 'wisdumb, the joy of not knowing'. by > > > > > > the > > > > > > way, i am not a religion lol...knowledge is not all that its cracked > > > > > > up to be imo...i would much prefer to be happy and lacking in > > > > > > knowledge than full of knowledge and unhappy...how about u? > > > > > > > On Apr 23, 5:55 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > It seems very incongruous of one so apparently knowledgeable to > > > > > > > say > > > > > > > there are questions we shouldn't ask or expect to gain knowledge > > > > > > > through asking. > > > > > > > I've always been crazy, maybe that has kept me from going insane > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > the knowledge gained from asking the questions that you and many > > > > > > > religions ban. > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > On Apr 23, 9:57 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > i think it is inherantly harmful to try to determine how we got > > > > > > > > here, > > > > > > > > or for what purpose. there are certain questions that we will > > > > > > > > never be > > > > > > > > able to answer and to ask them can lead to exasperation and even > > > > > > > > mental illness. there are a lot of bright eyed lunatics > > > > > > > > inhabiting > > > > > > > > mental asylums who have tried to climb that mountain only to > > > > > > > > realize > > > > > > > > there is no top. me feeling is that we should introspect, put > > > > > > > > out the > > > > > > > > welcome mat for all things that scratch on our cranium. i think > > > > > > > > we all > > > > > > > > have spirit but that we must polish it if we want it to get > > > > > > > > brighter. > > > > > > > > maybe is we do this a lot we wont have to keep coming back to > > > > > > > > hell...ooops, i mean earth, in order to try and figure it out > > > > > > > > again :-) > > > > > > > > > On Apr 20, 1:06 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Then what put us here, only a supreme entity could have > > > > > > > > > devised such a > > > > > > > > > miraculous creature at the human being. We are physically too > > > > > > > > > complicated to have simply derived from a cell. > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 20, 12:16 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Did you ever consider that religion simply fills a void > > > > > > > > > > within your > > > > > > > > > > incomplete self? Recognizing self and all it's potential > > > > > > > > > > overcomes, > > > > > > > > > > as you say, the frailties of the mind. Being faithful to a > > > > > > > > > > faith > > > > > > > > > > based belief in a deity that oversees everything in your > > > > > > > > > > life is > > > > > > > > > > merely abandonment of personal responsibility to the self, > > > > > > > > > > the who and > > > > > > > > > > what you are all about. Every culture experiences the same > > > > > > > > > > mortal > > > > > > > > > > life with all its hardships, diseases and woes regardless > > > > > > > > > > of religious > > > > > > > > > > belief. > > > > > > > > > > Anthropocentrism seems the main problem affecting the world > > > > > > > > > > and it's > > > > > > > > > > inability to become stable. We have become a disconnected > > > > > > > > > > entity, > > > > > > > > > > separated from our cosmic origin. This disconnect leaves us > > > > > > > > > > void of > > > > > > > > > > the vision necessary for growth beyond the mundane. > > > > > > > > > > God is a concept derived from ancient philosophies as a > > > > > > > > > > means of > > > > > > > > > > creating tangible relevance to the unknown origins of life. > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > > philosophers groped with ideas they failed to reach > > > > > > > > > > reasonable truths > > > > > > > > > > and therefore others injected there own ideas rendering the > > > > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > > > concept as infinitely enigmatic. As science advanced to > > > > > > > > > > replace myths > > > > > > > > > > major shifts in deity belief also took place which > > > > > > > > > > ultimately led to > > > > > > > > > > the use of religious concepts as a way of controlling the > > > > > > > > > > mass > > > > > > > > > > populace. I think God (the name we use) is the essence of > > > > > > > > > > all living > > > > > > > > > > things and all things perceived to be as in everything you > > > > > > > > > > see and > > > > > > > > > > everything you touch, the energy of life itself. > > > > > > > > > > Religion implies absolute truth and therefore each > > > > > > > > > > religious group > > > > > > > > > > must persecute those who fall outside of that truth, ergo, > > > > > > > > > > religious > > > > > > > > > > wars and atrocities. Religion has yet to accomplish > > > > > > > > > > anything more > > > > > > > > > > than duping people and stripping them of their ability to > > > > > > > > > > function > > > > > > > > > > upon their own reason. > > > > > > > > > > Two people of differing cultures can get along really well > > > > > > > > > > but when > > > > > > > > > > you throw in differing religions they are more apt to want > > > > > > > > > > to kill > > > > > > > > > > each other. > > > > > > > > > > I don't need religion to love someone, to treat someone > > > > > > > > > > equally or to > > > > > > > > > > have compassion. > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 19, 11:42 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I decided to start a new post as I originally intended it > > > > > > > > > > > to be a > > > > > > > > > > > response to the Purpose of Life post but felt it took > > > > > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > direction. > > > > > > > > > > > > First off, tip of the hat to everyone in here. I > > > > > > > > > > > discovered this > > > > > > > > > > > group by chance. Second, purpose to life? Ah, the > > > > > > > > > > > frailties of the > > > > > > > > > > > mind, I have been walking backwards as I've grown weak in > > > > > > > > > > > faith. I am > > > > > > > > > > > muslim, I don't think anyone here is immature enough to > > > > > > > > > > > negatively > > > > > > > > > > > comment on such a label, but I do have one thing to say: > > > > > > > > > > > When I was > > > > > > > > > > > more faithful to my religion and consistent with prayers > > > > > > > > > > > I felt a > > > > > > > > > > > sense of completion and calmness. I could even say that > > > > > > > > > > > I at one > > > > > > > > > > > point I felt that I reached a temporary self > > > > > > > > > > > actualization. It's not > > > > > > > > > > > the religion, but more or less the idea of maintaining > > > > > > > > > > > spirituality > > > > > > > > > > > that keeps one fulfilled. Through my recent skepticisms > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > analyzations of religion as a whole I have been more > > > > > > > > > > > distraught than > > > > > > > > > > > I've ever been. Is it an oddysey? Why does one who has > > > > > > > > > > > steered far > > > > > > > > > > > from ideological beliefs that a supreme entity exists > > > > > > > > > > > feel lost and > > > > > > > > > > > agonizingly stressed? Wouldn't one be better off just > > > > > > > > > > > accepting and > > > > > > > > > > > following religion knowing that they are abiding by its > > > > > > > > > > > rules > > > > > > > > > > > accordingly? Isn't that comfort? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > Lost- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
