LOL ah Yes Slip you have reached enlightenment you have seen the thing..and which is more you have produced the evidence of the existence of the Thing..
what you are talking about is starting another religionand is not thee enough already.. seemsto me they started at the same point.. Allan On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > The "Thing" in our mind? > > Like the > http://www.theclassicbeetle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/vw-thing.jpg > > OR http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084787/ > > LOL All joking aside I'd like to hear the opinion of the elusive Pat > Harrington on this quantum cosmos stuff! > > > On Apr 28, 10:20 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yea man! > > We need a focus point. > > Remember the subset of cosmic energy? > > The intelligent energy is in the subset cosmic energy we were taking > > about that is separated, or it does the separating in the free will > > yin/yang with the collective intelligence. > > We have to create a focus point in the separation. > > > > The 'thing' in our mind? > > > > peace & Love > > > > On Apr 28, 10:51 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I think we are on the same track! > > > To facilitate change in collective subconscious to alter the > > > collective consciousness is something that must happen in quantum > > > terms, as you say, beyond the realm of physical awareness. The only > > > way I would think it could happen is if all of humanity focused > > > together, expending enough mental energy to influence cosmic change, > > > the energy that becomes that super mind. > > > Perhaps there is some intelligent energy (needs defining) that causes > > > humanity to mentally separate, causing a disconnect of humanity with > > > cosmos, the one we are talking about creating. This separation is at > > > the core of all the problems, the chaos and the overall inability to > > > peacefully coexist and the whole of humanity's recognition of it is > > > crucial to the viability of the collective consciousness, > > > subconsciousness and the collective mentality. > > > > > On Apr 28, 4:35 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I can't say exactly how it will be done. > > > > This (from my post above) is the idea I'm working with. > > > > > > "The key we are looking for is in the "collective" mentality/ > > > > conscious/ > > > > intelligence/subconscious/mind. > > > > We have a common 'thing' in our minds." > > > > > > Or a 'common mind', that is above and beyond the self conscious mind > > > > of physical awareness, which we have access to, or a connection with. > > > > I'm thinking there is a way to make a connection to bring that 'super > > > > mind' forward in our conscious mind. > > > > If we can make the connection in a 'critical mass', the 'super mind' > > > > would infect the 'apparently' evil with a major epiphany and cause > > > > them to change their ways. > > > > > > re: "I think we need something more than the high idea. "...any > > > > suggestions? > > > > > > Again, I can't actually say how it will be done. I do have a pretty > > > > sure idea of what will Not work. > > > > I've been working on a post, The Wrong Way, that has grown from the > > > > discussion. I think it's done and I'll post it later. > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > On Apr 28, 5:56 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > please explain how you expect to accomplish the following because > this > > > > > is the part of your proposal that i cannot envision..."We don't > have > > > > > to get through to them. The Collective Mentality we're talking > about > > > > > establishing 'will' get through to them. We are not talking about > > > > > selling a bunch of dogma, we are talking about establishing a link > in > > > > > our minds that will bring the power of our collective intelligence > > > > > (God?) to bear on the actions of mankind." ... > > > > > > > On Apr 27, 10:39 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Rosey, > > > > > > I understand that the people you refer to as purely evil are > > > > > > despicable human beings. > > > > > > But they are human beings, and they are what they are because of > the > > > > > > values (or lack of) they have acquired in their Life. > > > > > > I just have an aversion to the word and idea of 'evil' because it > > > > > > excuses the human from responsibility. > > > > > > Psycho/sociopath is as close as a human gets to the idea of evil. > > > > > > > > We don't have to get through to them. The Collective Mentality > we're > > > > > > talking about establishing 'will' get through to them. > > > > > > We are not talking about selling a bunch of dogma, we are talking > > > > > > about establishing a link in our minds that will bring the power > of > > > > > > our collective intelligence (God?) to bear on the actions of > mankind. > > > > > > > > Slip said, "I think one of the key factors in the collective > mentality > > > > > > obstacle is > > > > > > the lack of insight into "post collective mentality". > > > > > > What I think he's saying is you are not looking at the > possibility. > > > > > > Like a scientist has a vision or object in his mind first, then > begins > > > > > > to figure ways to make it real. Where would we be today if all > the > > > > > > scientist had your attitude of "Oh we could never do that". > > > > > > > > We are looking to bring about an evolutionary leap for mankind. > Please > > > > > > release your primitive view of the human and look to the > possibility > > > > > > of overcoming the base mentality and evolving to a truly > spiritual > > > > > > people. > > > > > > Imagine utopia, think from that point of view. What is necessary > to > > > > > > establish unity? > > > > > > > > And it needs to happen soon, cause we don't want slip to go back > to > > > > > > Saturn :-) > > > > > > He wouldn't be happy without morning glories. > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > On Apr 27, 9:03 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Tinker, I get what you're saying, but when I mention "pure > evil" I am > > > > > > > referring to the leaders of countries. Few of them, very few, > would > > > > > > > agree with a collective mentality altogether. The problem is > getting > > > > > > > through to them. Yes we the plebians, patrons, citizens... are > > > > > > > starving for peace and humanity, but who is listening to us? > As long > > > > > > > as we have leaders that strive on maintaining power who are > unable to > > > > > > > equally share in thoughts, borders and resources, we are going > to have > > > > > > > followers that will believe in them. That's the truth. War > > > > > > > unfortunately reigns over sound mind. It's a paranoid caveman > > > > > > > instinct which evolution has yet to mutate. Am I for > collective > > > > > > > mentality? 100%, do I believe it will actualize anytime soon, > no. > > > > > > > It's going to take time. > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 5:13 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rosey, > > > > > > > > Your thinking that allows for someone to be "pure evil" is > the sort of > > > > > > > > stuff that is used to justify war. There is fear driven greed > that > > > > > > > > would apparently be the pure evil that you would > substantiate. But, it > > > > > > > > is 'purely' fear driven greed. > > > > > > > > > > The people of the world do not cater to war. We are subjected > to war > > > > > > > > by the fear driven greedy who have taken control of our > government. > > > > > > > > > > What mother nature does is just fine. If we establish the > collective > > > > > > > > mentality we will come more in line with mother nature's > natural order > > > > > > > > and maybe even have a bit of influence :-) For sure we would > handle > > > > > > > > disasters a lot better. > > > > > > > > > > The ideas for a Collective Mentality have never made any > significant > > > > > > > > progress across barriers of Language and Culture. > > > > > > > > So we should give up trying to find the way to make a world > wide > > > > > > > > collective mentality? > > > > > > > > > > Religions support the fatalistic prognosis. It would not give > them > > > > > > > > much authority if they didn't teach "there's nothing we can > > > > > > > > do" (instill apathy) except follow their dogma. > > > > > > > > > > A code of rules will never will never establish a collective > > > > > > > > mentality. That would be too complex to cross the barriers of > Culture > > > > > > > > and Language. > > > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 10:40 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Applause Slip, prior to responding to this thread I > initially planned > > > > > > > > > to agree with the collective mentality idea. As I am not > one that is > > > > > > > > > pro war. To me war is greed, power and an agenda to > eliminate the > > > > > > > > > enemy. War is heartache and pain. But when you have too > many people > > > > > > > > > whose intentions of others are nothing but pure evil, how > shall we > > > > > > > > > acquire this collective mentality. Although signs of > collective > > > > > > > > > mentality are already evident, eventually (when I say > eventually, I > > > > > > > > > refer to a distant future) it will be on everyone's list of > > > > > > > > > accomodations. Today's generation has less barbaric > tendencies than > > > > > > > > > say 1000 years ago. Yet with the attainment of civility we > still > > > > > > > > > cater to war. War whether we like to admit it or not, > maintains the > > > > > > > > > ratio of people versus earth's resources. Man is the > creator of his > > > > > > > > > own demise. Even Mother Nature herself steps in when man > does not. > > > > > > > > > Now would a collective mentality prevent tsunami's, > eruptions of > > > > > > > > > volcanoes, weather afflictions, earthquakes and disease? > Take the > > > > > > > > > Black Plague for example; Europe's agricultural land and > food supply > > > > > > > > > did not accomodate to the demand of its residents. Many > were starving > > > > > > > > > and hungry, the black plague moderated the ratio where the > survivors > > > > > > > > > were able to reestablish a resourceful community. Time and > time again > > > > > > > > > history has proven the survival of the fittest element. > Philosophy > > > > > > > > > and collective mentality theories have been developed as > early as the > > > > > > > > > Greeks. It may be possible that one day citizens of the > Earth will > > > > > > > > > abide by a code of rules associated through a collective > mentality. > > > > > > > > > We can only hope. > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 25, 11:44 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > What do I think? I think it would not be a "simulation" > of a perfect > > > > > > > > > > world but a reality that all of humanity created through > collective > > > > > > > > > > mentality. I think you are wrong about the tolerance of > humanity and > > > > > > > > > > especially the "straight" path as you put it. It is not > a straight > > > > > > > > > > path as opposed to a wrong path but simply a unison, a > harmony, a > > > > ... > > > > read more ยป > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
