Allan, we are not talking about starting another religion. We are looking at the root of all religion, which is intentionally good, and seeking a way to make it a common link amongst mankind without all the BS.
peace & Love On Apr 29, 4:35 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > LOL ah Yes Slip you have reached enlightenment you have seen the thing..and > which is more you have produced the evidence of the existence of the Thing.. > > what you are talking about is starting another religionand is not thee > enough already.. seemsto me they started at the same point.. > Allan > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The "Thing" in our mind? > > > Like the > >http://www.theclassicbeetle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/vw-thing.jpg > > > OR http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084787/ > > > LOL All joking aside I'd like to hear the opinion of the elusive Pat > > Harrington on this quantum cosmos stuff! > > > On Apr 28, 10:20 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yea man! > > > We need a focus point. > > > Remember the subset of cosmic energy? > > > The intelligent energy is in the subset cosmic energy we were taking > > > about that is separated, or it does the separating in the free will > > > yin/yang with the collective intelligence. > > > We have to create a focus point in the separation. > > > > The 'thing' in our mind? > > > > peace & Love > > > > On Apr 28, 10:51 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I think we are on the same track! > > > > To facilitate change in collective subconscious to alter the > > > > collective consciousness is something that must happen in quantum > > > > terms, as you say, beyond the realm of physical awareness. The only > > > > way I would think it could happen is if all of humanity focused > > > > together, expending enough mental energy to influence cosmic change, > > > > the energy that becomes that super mind. > > > > Perhaps there is some intelligent energy (needs defining) that causes > > > > humanity to mentally separate, causing a disconnect of humanity with > > > > cosmos, the one we are talking about creating. This separation is at > > > > the core of all the problems, the chaos and the overall inability to > > > > peacefully coexist and the whole of humanity's recognition of it is > > > > crucial to the viability of the collective consciousness, > > > > subconsciousness and the collective mentality. > > > > > On Apr 28, 4:35 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I can't say exactly how it will be done. > > > > > This (from my post above) is the idea I'm working with. > > > > > > "The key we are looking for is in the "collective" mentality/ > > > > > conscious/ > > > > > intelligence/subconscious/mind. > > > > > We have a common 'thing' in our minds." > > > > > > Or a 'common mind', that is above and beyond the self conscious mind > > > > > of physical awareness, which we have access to, or a connection with. > > > > > I'm thinking there is a way to make a connection to bring that 'super > > > > > mind' forward in our conscious mind. > > > > > If we can make the connection in a 'critical mass', the 'super mind' > > > > > would infect the 'apparently' evil with a major epiphany and cause > > > > > them to change their ways. > > > > > > re: "I think we need something more than the high idea. "...any > > > > > suggestions? > > > > > > Again, I can't actually say how it will be done. I do have a pretty > > > > > sure idea of what will Not work. > > > > > I've been working on a post, The Wrong Way, that has grown from the > > > > > discussion. I think it's done and I'll post it later. > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > On Apr 28, 5:56 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > please explain how you expect to accomplish the following because > > this > > > > > > is the part of your proposal that i cannot envision..."We don't > > have > > > > > > to get through to them. The Collective Mentality we're talking > > about > > > > > > establishing 'will' get through to them. We are not talking about > > > > > > selling a bunch of dogma, we are talking about establishing a link > > in > > > > > > our minds that will bring the power of our collective intelligence > > > > > > (God?) to bear on the actions of mankind." ... > > > > > > > On Apr 27, 10:39 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Rosey, > > > > > > > I understand that the people you refer to as purely evil are > > > > > > > despicable human beings. > > > > > > > But they are human beings, and they are what they are because of > > the > > > > > > > values (or lack of) they have acquired in their Life. > > > > > > > I just have an aversion to the word and idea of 'evil' because it > > > > > > > excuses the human from responsibility. > > > > > > > Psycho/sociopath is as close as a human gets to the idea of evil. > > > > > > > > We don't have to get through to them. The Collective Mentality > > we're > > > > > > > talking about establishing 'will' get through to them. > > > > > > > We are not talking about selling a bunch of dogma, we are talking > > > > > > > about establishing a link in our minds that will bring the power > > of > > > > > > > our collective intelligence (God?) to bear on the actions of > > mankind. > > > > > > > > Slip said, "I think one of the key factors in the collective > > mentality > > > > > > > obstacle is > > > > > > > the lack of insight into "post collective mentality". > > > > > > > What I think he's saying is you are not looking at the > > possibility. > > > > > > > Like a scientist has a vision or object in his mind first, then > > begins > > > > > > > to figure ways to make it real. Where would we be today if all > > the > > > > > > > scientist had your attitude of "Oh we could never do that". > > > > > > > > We are looking to bring about an evolutionary leap for mankind. > > Please > > > > > > > release your primitive view of the human and look to the > > possibility > > > > > > > of overcoming the base mentality and evolving to a truly > > spiritual > > > > > > > people. > > > > > > > Imagine utopia, think from that point of view. What is necessary > > to > > > > > > > establish unity? > > > > > > > > And it needs to happen soon, cause we don't want slip to go back > > to > > > > > > > Saturn :-) > > > > > > > He wouldn't be happy without morning glories. > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > On Apr 27, 9:03 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Tinker, I get what you're saying, but when I mention "pure > > evil" I am > > > > > > > > referring to the leaders of countries. Few of them, very few, > > would > > > > > > > > agree with a collective mentality altogether. The problem is > > getting > > > > > > > > through to them. Yes we the plebians, patrons, citizens... are > > > > > > > > starving for peace and humanity, but who is listening to us? > > As long > > > > > > > > as we have leaders that strive on maintaining power who are > > unable to > > > > > > > > equally share in thoughts, borders and resources, we are going > > to have > > > > > > > > followers that will believe in them. That's the truth. War > > > > > > > > unfortunately reigns over sound mind. It's a paranoid caveman > > > > > > > > instinct which evolution has yet to mutate. Am I for > > collective > > > > > > > > mentality? 100%, do I believe it will actualize anytime soon, > > no. > > > > > > > > It's going to take time. > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 5:13 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rosey, > > > > > > > > > Your thinking that allows for someone to be "pure evil" is > > the sort of > > > > > > > > > stuff that is used to justify war. There is fear driven greed > > that > > > > > > > > > would apparently be the pure evil that you would > > substantiate. But, it > > > > > > > > > is 'purely' fear driven greed. > > > > > > > > > > The people of the world do not cater to war. We are subjected > > to war > > > > > > > > > by the fear driven greedy who have taken control of our > > government. > > > > > > > > > > What mother nature does is just fine. If we establish the > > collective > > > > > > > > > mentality we will come more in line with mother nature's > > natural order > > > > > > > > > and maybe even have a bit of influence :-) For sure we would > > handle > > > > > > > > > disasters a lot better. > > > > > > > > > > The ideas for a Collective Mentality have never made any > > significant > > > > > > > > > progress across barriers of Language and Culture. > > > > > > > > > So we should give up trying to find the way to make a world > > wide > > > > > > > > > collective mentality? > > > > > > > > > > Religions support the fatalistic prognosis. It would not give > > them > > > > > > > > > much authority if they didn't teach "there's nothing we can > > > > > > > > > do" (instill apathy) except follow their dogma. > > > > > > > > > > A code of rules will never will never establish a collective > > > > > > > > > mentality. That would be too complex to cross the barriers of > > Culture > > > > > > > > > and Language. > > > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 10:40 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Applause Slip, prior to responding to this thread I > > initially planned > > > > > > > > > > to agree with the collective mentality idea. As I am not > > one that is > > > > > > > > > > pro war. To me war is greed, power and an agenda to > > eliminate the > > > > > > > > > > enemy. War is heartache and pain. But when you have too > > many people > > > > > > > > > > whose intentions of others are nothing but pure evil, how > > shall we > > > > > > > > > > acquire this collective mentality. Although signs of > > collective > > > > > > > > > > mentality are already evident, eventually (when I say > > eventually, I > > > > > > > > > > refer to a distant future) it will be on everyone's list of > > > > > > > > > > accomodations. Today's generation has less barbaric > > tendencies than > > > > > > > > > > say 1000 years ago. Yet with the attainment of civility we > > still > > > > > > > > > > cater to war. War whether we like to admit it or not, > > maintains the > > > > > > > > > > ratio of people versus earth's resources. Man is the > > creator of his > > > > > > > > > > own > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
