We can have and individual soul but we still have the free will to enhance or damage it. I can't see the collective soul, to what purpose would it serve for individuals in a individualistic world? If it were so, then much of the collective would be rotten, like a huge portion of an apple. There is much to consider when pondering such concepts.
On May 10, 10:05 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > I think that there is a collective mentality or even a collective soul > that evolves as we evolve individually. But I do not think it is > something we can manipulate or force to move one way or another. We > can sell more Pepsi with a good marketing campaign and our collective > mentality can include the archetype of a good sweet drink, but what > that drink is for each of us is what we make of it by choice, and > those differences make the variety of life enjoyable. Or not. Your > choice. > > On May 9, 10:12 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I had once actually but what I'm getting at is you should make up your > > mind. Is it the life force or God? > > Its the connotative relevance issue. > > > On May 9, 4:59 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > You ain't never met him either? > > > I wonder if that picture Mike Angelo drew on the ceiling wasn't > > > real :-) > > > > peace & Love > > > > On May 9, 5:33 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > God? > > > > > On May 9, 9:49 am, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Soul Pool Dipper? > > > > > > Do you think God uses his hand to dip out the Life juice to > > > > > individuals? :-) > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > On May 9, 9:39 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Oops, you left out something........ > > > > > > > This is the idea you present that I refer to as religious 'type' > > > > > > teaching. <<<Tinker > > > > > > > The "idea that I present" where? > > > > > > > Soul Pool Dipper? > > > > > > > On May 9, 8:33 am, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > " Why was I born with a multitude of talent and not my brother?" > > > > > > > > Because you got a soul pool dipper full of talent? :-) > > > > > > > > > > The other thing where we diverge is that you believe mankind > > > > > > > > > can be > > > > > > > > > taught or will learn to come together by the means of > > > > > > > > > religious (type) > > > > > > > > > teaching/learning of the right way to behave.<<<Tinker > > > > > > > > > I haven't a clue where you get that idea but considering its > > > > > > > > vagueness > > > > > > > > you will have to explain further. > > > > > > > > This is the idea you present that I refer to as religious 'type' > > > > > > > teaching. > > > > > > > > However, in general conversation when topic leans, one might > > > > > > > begin to > > > > > > > > > share the ideal. I change the people around me by "example" > > > > > > > > and they > > > > > > > > change others with their change and so there is a ramification > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > change. > > > > > > > > Well how would you go about accomplishing the "common > > > > > > > > understanding"? > > > > > > > > With a universal symbol that points at the connection in our > > > > > > > mind, to > > > > > > > our higher power, which is common to mankind. > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > On May 8, 10:30 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 8, 7:35 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > We do have a whole lot of common understanding, and the same > > > > > > > > > basic > > > > > > > > > goal in mind. > > > > > > > > > One difference we have is that you think the spirit/soul is > > > > > > > > > other than > > > > > > > > > and/or beyond Life, ego/self in tow. I think it is an > > > > > > > > > extension 'of' > > > > > > > > > Life, and when the Life ceases the life force returns to the > > > > > > > > > 'collective life force' free of any ego/self. And that makes > > > > > > > > > absolutely no difference in the idea I'm presenting.<<<Tinker > > > > > > > > > This is our difference, and one that has been covered in many > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > posts. I feel the soul is unique to the individual and does not > > > > > > > > return to some "soul pool". When life ceases the Spirit ceases > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > the Soul continues on, retaining human qualities. The > > > > > > > > experiences of > > > > > > > > de javu, past life regressions and dreams of previous life > > > > > > > > experiences, for me, all point to the soul experiences, now and > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > past. If my soul was new in 1200 BC then I would have a great > > > > > > > > deal of > > > > > > > > wisdom at birth through now, as some people exhibit. If it is > > > > > > > > as you > > > > > > > > say, what determines the issuance of talents, intelligence, > > > > > > > > skills > > > > > > > > etc, it seems like a wild card and inconsistent with your > > > > > > > > assertion>>"There is a purpose to Life though. It is for > > > > > > > > progress of > > > > > > > > the intelligence that is the Life force." (may 6 in what's the > > > > > > > > point) > > > > > > > > I would rather think that Einstein's soul exists today in the > > > > > > > > form of > > > > > > > > a young brilliant physicist or scientist somewhere on the > > > > > > > > planet or > > > > > > > > parallel universe and not that his soul became part of a great > > > > > > > > ocean > > > > > > > > of energy. Why was I born with a multitude of talent and not my > > > > > > > > brother? > > > > > > > > > > The other thing where we diverge is that you believe mankind > > > > > > > > > can be > > > > > > > > > taught or will learn to come together by the means of > > > > > > > > > religious (type) > > > > > > > > > teaching/learning of the right way to behave.<<<Tinker > > > > > > > > > I haven't a clue where you get that idea but considering its > > > > > > > > vagueness > > > > > > > > you will have to explain further. > > > > > > > > > > The way of Society can be changed with a simple mechanical > > > > > > > > > switch.<<<Tinker > > > > > > > > > Mechanical Switch? Your getting really hazy! Are you talking > > > > > > > > eugenics? How would you change people like > > > > > > > > this>>>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519548,00.html > > > > > > > > > > That switch would be the common understanding of the source > > > > > > > > > of our > > > > > > > > > spiritual connection in the mind, recognized as mankind's > > > > > > > > > common link.<<<Tinker > > > > > > > > > Well how would you go about accomplishing the "common > > > > > > > > understanding"? > > > > > > > > By what method would you get people to recognize humanity's > > > > > > > > common > > > > > > > > link? > > > > > > > > Preaching? Teaching? Lecturing? U Tubing? TV ads? Flyers, > > > > > > > > posters, > > > > > > > > bumber stickers? Minds Eye? > > > > > > > > How would you go about it? > > > > > > > > > > "That I know what I'm talking about", was a part of several > > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > forming a concept. I was asking you to suspend your beliefs > > > > > > > > > for a > > > > > > > > > moment and consider my point of view. <<<Tinker > > > > > > > > > It still remains the same, you are forming a concept from > > > > > > > > several > > > > > > > > things you believe and projecting it as new. > > > > > > > > I don't have any real beliefs, they are just ideas, thoughts, > > > > > > > > concepts > > > > > > > > derived from personal experience and equally challenged by > > > > > > > > others as > > > > > > > > are all the other ideas and concepts. That is why I always say > > > > > > > > "I > > > > > > > > think". > > > > > > > > > >I am 'trying to show you the way' we Can change the way of > > > > > > > > >Society > > > > > > > > > 'Now', and that is not by the methods of > > > > > > > > > selling/preaching/teaching. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for working with me brother, I Love you.<<<Tinker > > > > > > > > > You don't have to thank me for anything. I've never implied or > > > > > > > > inferred that we can change people by selling, preaching or > > > > > > > > teaching. > > > > > > > > However, in general conversation when topic leans, one might > > > > > > > > begin to > > > > > > > > share the ideal. I change the people around me by "example" > > > > > > > > and they > > > > > > > > change others with their change and so there is a ramification > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > change. Some people just don't want to change, and that is the > > > > > > > > main > > > > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > Now I can send you a starter kit, How to Change the World part > > > > > > > > 1, for > > > > > > > > just 3 easy payments of just $19.95, plus shipping and > > > > > > > > handling. If > > > > > > > > your not completely satisfied with your order just return it > > > > > > > > for a > > > > > > > > full refund, no questions asked, other than, why didn't you > > > > > > > > like it? > > > > > > > > Not Sold in Stores! 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