Maybe the basic idea would seem plausible for the criminal element as a means of prison depopulation in respect to non violent crime. I'm trying to remember the name of a movie I saw, the setting was a prison in which there were no fences. All the prisoners wore a collar that had an explosive device and each prisoner had a anonymous buddy. Anyone that stepped beyond the boundary of the prison would set of the explosive device of self and the buddy. So it was understood that not only should one not try to escape but also make sure that someone else would not escape as well in case they happened to be the buddy. The plot of course revolves around a character who must escape to retrieve the millions he stole and hid. So considering the overcrowded problems prisons face these days and the number of non violent people incarcerated, I would think that there would be many volunteers ready to take the monitoring chip in order to re-enter the private sector, without the cyanide of course. Consider that if a thief with the chip tried to rob a store or residence the GPS tracking records would show the person was there at the location at the time of the robbery. Police would then apprehend the thief and revoke the monitoring privilege. So as you say it would have to be a voluntary decision. I think the medical aspect that you brought up is a good idea as well. I could see many people volunteering for such an implant that would release a life saving drug into the system should the person become unconscious in an accident. There would have to be some indicator for the attending rescue team in order for them to know about the implant and to facilitate the release through some "On Star" type program. I see a lot of complexities and potential problems but who knows if in another 20 years it can all be worked out.
On May 18, 8:40 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > My instinct is to say no but on reflection, looking at all the other 'nanny > state' laws already on the books, perhaps it could happen. I hope not. > Brings back memories of The Prisoner(excellent psycho/drama from the 60's > bbc). In my usual devil's advocate fashion I can actually see some positive > aspects to a device such as this. It could also be encoded with data on the > users medical history(allowing for injections of insulin or some other drug > if vitals demand it) as well as credit history, bank balances and other > personal information. My wallet is already an inch and half thick I could > use something like this. > > It would have to be voluntary or your average democracy wouldn't stand for > it. As far as travel-try to get on a plane without a drivers license or > photo ID of some kind. Not gonna happen. The only thing about the chip > that bothers me is the cyanide angle. Other then that, I'd give it a test. > Of course, I'd want the option to opt out anytime I wanted. I like having > choices. It's one of the reason's I favor the gubment staying out of > healthcare. They'll just make it all suck equally. Like it already does in > Canada and the UK. (see how I just slipped that in there?) > > Assuming it did happen, problems would arise when innocent people began > getting arrested or detained because of faulty hardware/software. Shit > would happen and someone would accidentally release the cyanide and be > killed. This would end up creating mass hysteria and the implants would be > removed. For something like this to work it would have to remain top > secret. Might work under a Democrat admininstration but not a Republican > one. The NYT's would never allow National Security issues to impinge on > their journalistic integrity under a Republican administration. Unless, of > course, it advanced their liberal agenda. (snicker) > > dj > > n Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You and Don are right on, but I was wondering how a society would > > respond to having been chipped. Will the world be safer or will > > people rebel? I personally would have the chip removed and implanted > > in a wild animal roaming the forest. But I'm thinking that when you > > get pulled over by the police, go to the airport, drive interstate or > > international they will have a scanner to retrieve the information. > > Anyone who does not comply or removes the chip is arrested. This > > could easily become reality in another hundred years or less. Don't > > you think so? > > > On May 17, 3:04 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Why do they need to add mor techonolgy.. when there are things that > > already > > > exist like cell phones, or the intenet. and if you don't have one you are > > > probably not doing anything anyway.. > > > Allan > > > > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Seems a silly thing to request a patent for. If it's a viable > > > > technology(I assume it is) then it's probably already being used by > > > > governments(mossad, cia, kgb etc.) I can't imagine any other entity > > > > finding such a thing useful. I imagine it would best be used on > > > > volunteers offered increased freedom in exchange for the new risk. > > > > Much like the ankle bracelet. > > > > > As long as it was voluntary I would have no problem with it. Forcing > > > > such a thing on even the worst criminal I would be against. Better to > > > > keep them locked up or end it now without the implant. You know such > > > > a thing would be expensive so I'd want the money to come from the > > > > implantee, not tax payers. > > > > > Most of us already have social security numbers, cell phones and > > > > drivers licenses and credit cards that track us almost as well as any > > > > gps tracker could. The idea of cyinide implants given to the general > > > > populace is preposterous. Never happen. If it did his patent would > > > > be useless because governments would just negate it. Much like what > > > > happened with the O-ring. > > > > > Personally, I'd prefer the retina scan. > > > > > dj > > > > > Just occurred to me a similar technology is the female contraceptive > > > > implant. Wouldn't it be something if all those women already are > > > > being tracked... > > > > (cue X-Files music here) > > > > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I've always said that the minds of men eventually come to fruition. > > I > > > > > strongly stand by my assertion and have as always pointed to the > > > > > movies of the past that have gone from science fiction to reality, > > ie; > > > > > Flash Gordon, Dick Tracy etc. > > > > > There has been for years now talk about how everyone was going to > > have > > > > > a chip implanted under the skin and/or a UPC bar code tattoo put on > > > > > their skin by government for the sake of keeping control of the > > > > > populous, which admittedly has become so enormous that keeping track > > > > > with old methods is futile. However, what are the ramifications of > > > > > such action by government, they already are tampering with our ID? > > > > > The cyanide aspect for this hideous invention is absurd considering > > > > > that people may die simply because of some malfunction or random > > > > > computer hack that releases the poison. > > > > > > Do you think the intent behind this type of invention will actually > > > > > one day become a reality? > > > > > > Do you trust your government to thwart such lunacy or do you think > > one > > > > > day they will just cave in? > > > > > >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520331,00.html > > > > > > Are your papers in order? > > > > -- > > > ( > > > ) > > > I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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