I remember a scary movie from a while back…”Forbidden Planet”. It was quite prophetic in many ways…and the ‘creature of the Id!’…well….
On May 19, 1:26 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > There was a Star Trek episode with the exploding collars. Kirk had to > battle(gladiator style) a large breasted blonde woman before she fell > in love with him. Not one of the better episodes. The killer collar > is a recurring theme most recently seen in the 3rd Underworld movie. > > Nano-bots were all the rage a few years ago in sci-fi. That's a lot > more in the future then a few decades I'd think. Michael Crichton had > a scary book about that not too long ago. > > dj > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Maybe the basic idea would seem plausible for the criminal element as > > a means of prison depopulation in respect to non violent crime. I'm > > trying to remember the name of a movie I saw, the setting was a prison > > in which there were no fences. All the prisoners wore a collar that > > had an explosive device and each prisoner had a anonymous buddy. > > Anyone that stepped beyond the boundary of the prison would set of the > > explosive device of self and the buddy. So it was understood that not > > only should one not try to escape but also make sure that someone else > > would not escape as well in case they happened to be the buddy. The > > plot of course revolves around a character who must escape to retrieve > > the millions he stole and hid. > > So considering the overcrowded problems prisons face these days and > > the number of non violent people incarcerated, I would think that > > there would be many volunteers ready to take the monitoring chip in > > order to re-enter the private sector, without the cyanide of course. > > Consider that if a thief with the chip tried to rob a store or > > residence the GPS tracking records would show the person was there at > > the location at the time of the robbery. Police would then apprehend > > the thief and revoke the monitoring privilege. So as you say it would > > have to be a voluntary decision. > > I think the medical aspect that you brought up is a good idea as > > well. I could see many people volunteering for such an implant that > > would release a life saving drug into the system should the person > > become unconscious in an accident. There would have to be some > > indicator for the attending rescue team in order for them to know > > about the implant and to facilitate the release through some "On Star" > > type program. I see a lot of complexities and potential problems but > > who knows if in another 20 years it can all be worked out. > > > On May 18, 8:40 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > My instinct is to say no but on reflection, looking at all the other > > > 'nanny > > > state' laws already on the books, perhaps it could happen. I hope not. > > > Brings back memories of The Prisoner(excellent psycho/drama from the 60's > > > bbc). In my usual devil's advocate fashion I can actually see some > > > positive > > > aspects to a device such as this. It could also be encoded with data on > > > the > > > users medical history(allowing for injections of insulin or some other > > > drug > > > if vitals demand it) as well as credit history, bank balances and other > > > personal information. My wallet is already an inch and half thick I could > > > use something like this. > > > > It would have to be voluntary or your average democracy wouldn't stand for > > > it. As far as travel-try to get on a plane without a drivers license or > > > photo ID of some kind. Not gonna happen. The only thing about the chip > > > that bothers me is the cyanide angle. Other then that, I'd give it a > > > test. > > > Of course, I'd want the option to opt out anytime I wanted. I like having > > > choices. It's one of the reason's I favor the gubment staying out of > > > healthcare. They'll just make it all suck equally. Like it already does > > > in > > > Canada and the UK. (see how I just slipped that in there?) > > > > Assuming it did happen, problems would arise when innocent people began > > > getting arrested or detained because of faulty hardware/software. Shit > > > would happen and someone would accidentally release the cyanide and be > > > killed. This would end up creating mass hysteria and the implants would > > > be > > > removed. For something like this to work it would have to remain top > > > secret. Might work under a Democrat admininstration but not a Republican > > > one. The NYT's would never allow National Security issues to impinge on > > > their journalistic integrity under a Republican administration. Unless, > > > of > > > course, it advanced their liberal agenda. (snicker) > > > > dj > > > > n Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You and Don are right on, but I was wondering how a society would > > > > respond to having been chipped. Will the world be safer or will > > > > people rebel? I personally would have the chip removed and implanted > > > > in a wild animal roaming the forest. But I'm thinking that when you > > > > get pulled over by the police, go to the airport, drive interstate or > > > > international they will have a scanner to retrieve the information. > > > > Anyone who does not comply or removes the chip is arrested. This > > > > could easily become reality in another hundred years or less. Don't > > > > you think so? > > > > > On May 17, 3:04 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Why do they need to add mor techonolgy.. when there are things that > > > > already > > > > > exist like cell phones, or the intenet. and if you don't have one you > > > > > are > > > > > probably not doing anything anyway.. > > > > > Allan > > > > > > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Seems a silly thing to request a patent for. If it's a viable > > > > > > technology(I assume it is) then it's probably already being used by > > > > > > governments(mossad, cia, kgb etc.) I can't imagine any other entity > > > > > > finding such a thing useful. I imagine it would best be used on > > > > > > volunteers offered increased freedom in exchange for the new risk. > > > > > > Much like the ankle bracelet. > > > > > > > As long as it was voluntary I would have no problem with it. > > > > > > Forcing > > > > > > such a thing on even the worst criminal I would be against. Better > > > > > > to > > > > > > keep them locked up or end it now without the implant. You know > > > > > > such > > > > > > a thing would be expensive so I'd want the money to come from the > > > > > > implantee, not tax payers. > > > > > > > Most of us already have social security numbers, cell phones and > > > > > > drivers licenses and credit cards that track us almost as well as > > > > > > any > > > > > > gps tracker could. The idea of cyinide implants given to the > > > > > > general > > > > > > populace is preposterous. Never happen. If it did his patent would > > > > > > be useless because governments would just negate it. Much like what > > > > > > happened with the O-ring. > > > > > > > Personally, I'd prefer the retina scan. > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > Just occurred to me a similar technology is the female contraceptive > > > > > > implant. Wouldn't it be something if all those women already are > > > > > > being tracked... > > > > > > (cue X-Files music here) > > > > > > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I've always said that the minds of men eventually come to > > > > > > > fruition. > > > > I > > > > > > > strongly stand by my assertion and have as always pointed to the > > > > > > > movies of the past that have gone from science fiction to reality, > > > > ie; > > > > > > > Flash Gordon, Dick Tracy etc. > > > > > > > There has been for years now talk about how everyone was going to > > > > have > > > > > > > a chip implanted under the skin and/or a UPC bar code tattoo put > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > their skin by government for the sake of keeping control of the > > > > > > > populous, which admittedly has become so enormous that keeping > > > > > > > track > > > > > > > with old methods is futile. However, what are the ramifications > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > such action by government, they already are tampering with our ID? > > > > > > > The cyanide aspect for this hideous invention is absurd > > > > > > > considering > > > > > > > that people may die simply because of some malfunction or random > > > > > > > computer hack that releases the poison. > > > > > > > > Do you think the intent behind this type of invention will > > > > > > > actually > > > > > > > one day become a reality? > > > > > > > > Do you trust your government to thwart such lunacy or do you think > > > > one > > > > > > > day they will just cave in? > > > > > > > >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520331,00.html > > > > > > > > Are your papers in order? > > > > > > -- > > > > > ( > > > > > ) > > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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