What do I win?
On Jun 26, 4:05 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> You don't have to beg, lol.
> OK! You win. {;-]
>
> On Jun 26, 3:44 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I beg to differ Sir Slip. Vicious, heavy, flagitious, heinous,
> > iniquitous, irreclaimable, irredeemable, unredeemable, unreformable,
> > nefarious, villainous, peccable, peccant, obscene, vile,
> > reprehensible, extremely wicked, deeply criminal, horrible, wicked ...
> > Each of these terms are easily recognizable by any and all of us and
> > determine to one degree or another the degree of badness an act or
> > person has achieved all on their own.
>
> > Terms such as evil, sinful, ungodly, of the devil, satan, malefic,
> > having or exerting a malignant influence, malevolent stars, a malefic
> > force and a slew of others imply a degree of badness lower than can be
> > imagined and strongly implies the existence of a supreme being and a
> > supreme villian of which we are mere pawns in need of forgiveness and
> > redemption.
>
> > It just seems to me that the human species has labored long enough
> > under the yoke of guilt and worthlessness that our religions heap upon
> > us. For those who counter with the rapture that allegedly captures
> > some of the faithful, remember that it takes blind belief and faith in
> > a supreme being in order to achieve that rapturous state of bliss.
> > I'm sorry but did someone once say that ignorance is also bliss?
>
> > We do not need a supreme being to tell us what is good and bad. We
> > can figure it out on our own if for no other reason than that we're so
> > good at it -- being bad that is. So let's take Christ, Muhammad,
> > Buddha, Krishna, and all the other manifestations and put them in
> > their proper place in the well-illuminated handsomely decorated corner
> > display hutch of ancient worships and begin to deal with things on an
> > even playing ground. Anyone who brings in god or any of it's minions
> > is automatically disqualified. There is only one rule that is
> > needed. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. The worse
> > someone does you the badder they are and vice versa.
>
> > On Jun 26, 7:09 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Exactly, the degrees of which something is good or bad, happy or sad
> > > etc. There are other words that describe these degrees. A person
> > > who wins lotto might not just be happy but elated, ecstatic or
> > > exhilarated. So what word describes, in your world, the worst of the
> > > bad? Is there such a thing as an evil deed that is not religiously
> > > affiliated? Maybe I've been disassociated with religious context for
> > > so long I don't get the religious slant. I tend to put more religious
> > > emphasis on words like diabolic or satanic. Evil to me is worst than
> > > wickedness. I do agree that religions have instituted much
> > > ecclesiastical subjugation throughout history which by their very
> > > nature could be interpreted as evil (as they define it), however I
> > > wouldn't assign the word evil exclusively to religious entities in our
> > > time. It's just another word for me.
>
> > > On Jun 25, 6:53 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Just as nothing is black and white, nothing is pure good or pure bad.
> > > > It's always a matter of degree, I think. My personal views on
> > > > religion neither interfere with my objective perceptions of relgion
> > > > nor mitigate the degree of oppressive control most religions have
> > > > exercised through the delicate art of evil. (with nods to Rigsey.)
>
> > > > On Jun 25, 3:17 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Sounds good on the surface, Gruff, but what about the extremes of
> > > > > bad? Do we view heinous crimes as just bad behavior? Perhaps your
> > > > > perception of evil is maligned by personal views towards religion.
> > > > > Does evil only have a religious connotation?
>
> > > > > On Jun 25, 4:28 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Evil is a religious term of art designed to put the fear of god into
> > > > > > you by classifying some human behavior as bad and other, far worse,
> > > > > > evil, because you only suffer temporarily for being bad but if
> > > > > > you're
> > > > > > evil you go straight to hell and burn for all eternity. I prefer
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > use the terms good and bad to classify human behavior. Good and bad
> > > > > > do not carry the baggage of religion and thus make for a more
> > > > > > perfect
> > > > > > balance of judgment.
>
> > > > > > On Jun 24, 1:51 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > A simple question, or is it?
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