And what IS that, Molly ?  As THAT, how does IT see itself as ?  What
is in it 's AWARENESS ?  Does it have desires, and the tendency to
act ?

We individuals, from THAT reference, are merely looking through a pin
hole. We do see something, but what we see is not the whole.

I am only trying to take our discussion forward, the way I know. I
very much would like to listen to what you may choose to share. The
paths are many.

I would like to invite OM on this matter, if he favour us.

On Jun 29, 4:43 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> all we will ever know at the same time for all time... or ...knowing
> (and being) everyone and everything that ever was and ever will be and
> all that is...
>
> On Jun 28, 8:09 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Isn't that cosmic consciousness, Vam?
>
> > On Jun 28, 6:24 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Jim, really speaking beyond mere more terms and thoughts, I do not
> > > even know how the dog derives many, many times more from the bone I
> > > discarded as nothing !  The fact is empirical.  But do I understand
> > > it ?  I do not know.
>
> > > The other day, a journalist academic analysed racism and opined :  We
> > > are not racists. Just that some among us are ignorant and, hence,
> > > display their prejudices which seem racist.  That, I found, was a mere
> > > explanation of racist behaviour. It was irrelevent to the question :
> > > Are we racist ?
>
> > > I believe that alongwith science, which indeed we might know
> > > everything of, we need to know the answer to such questions, which is
> > > what I am afraid we ALL will never know ALL at the SAME TIME, for ALL
> > > TIME.
>
> > > On Jun 28, 1:20 am, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Looking back over recent decades it seems clear that we (mankind) is
> > > > coming to know, in a scientific sense, more and more about more and
> > > > more, and faster and faster. Will there ever come a time when we will
> > > > know everything about everything?
> > > >         I’ve asked a number of people this question, and all say “no.” 
> > > > But it
> > > > seems to me that the correct answer is “yes.” Why?
> > > >         First, I’m talking about knowing all the scientific laws 
> > > > governing
> > > > the physical universe – nothing more, nothing less. The physical
> > > > universe is immense, but finite. Science has long assumed that the
> > > > laws governing our small bit of it are universal; they apply
> > > > everywhere in the universe just as they apply here. Given then that
> > > > the physical universe is finite, it would seem that the laws governing
> > > > it are also finite. And as we come to know them here faster and
> > > > faster, at some point it would seem that we will know everything about
> > > > everything.
> > > >         This also seems to me to be consistent with what Einstein and 
> > > > others
> > > > have long sought – the ultimate theory of everything. (This effort is
> > > > well described by Brian Greene in his book The Elegant Universe.) If
> > > > knowing everything were obviously not possible, surely this group
> > > > would never have begun pursuing that ultimate theory.
> > > >         How might we tell when we are approaching the point where we 
> > > > know
> > > > everything? I expect the growth of knowledge is gaussian. As we
> > > > approach knowing everything the rate of knowledge growth will
> > > > gradually slow. So by monitoring this rate of growth we should be able
> > > > to predict when we will know everything. Right?- Hide quoted text -
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