Manfranco you are right the evolution of beliefs is just not happening, as it would cause a lose of power and to change spiritual beliefs, at the same time the orthodox and RC Church form a keel type of concept. the problem is over the centuries the keels are not changed to allow better and more accurate performance adapting to a spiritual climate. Like a keel is important in the performance of a sailing boat adding the stable and counter balance, Often time the evolutionary beliefs are stuck back centuries ago with out to modern changes and those that do advocate change are condemned. it is a sad situation. because even when you come to some of the newer churches they are only using what they see as their advantage,, making there concepts into unchanging concrete. to bad though, as I would love to be part of either the orthodox (preferred) or the roman rite as I have no desire to start a church or belief system Allan
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Manfraco Frank the Elder < [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi to all Minds Eye members: > > I have read most of your religious discussions in this post and I > agree with most of them, but, as we all have a degree of belief, or of > non belief that usually differ from one another, we all express > ourselves in a different way, so I would like to have my say on > religious matter if you don’t mind. > For me religion is changing too slowly compared to the changes that > have occurred in human civilization especially during last century. > Broadly speaking I believe that if religious leaders don’t think of > adjusting with the times they are going to see themselves redundant > soon, or at least decimated, because there will be a lot of people > that are going to ask questions, because nowadays religions as they > are, most times don’t stand up to intelligent scrutiny, and therefore, > intelligent people are going to question that. > As a believer, I wish that God would guide the religious leaders to > fix this problem. > Or if there is really a God who is looking at us and wants to help us, > let him send someone capable of changing things and able to reconcile > the existing religious ways with the future ways. > Perhaps there may already be somebody among us that is capable to do > just that; but so far we have not seen any signs of him. While I am > looking for these signs, I would like to ask any of you these > questions: > Do you think that it is possible these days to find a way and > reconcile all sorts of religions? > Or do you think that it is not possible to achieve? > Waiting to hear from anyone of you what do you think about this wish > of mine? > > I send you my regards to you all, > Manfraco > > > On Jul 17, 8:16 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Well I have to disagree Tink. For soooo many years that I can't count > > the Christian church has denied any rights to woman who want to become > > preists, stateing that all of Jesuses disciples where men, and thus > > the lord must have meant for men only to be preists. That is now no > > longer valid for one Christian demonination. This is far more than a > > cosmetic change, it is a change of dogma after thousdands of years. > > > > Now-days I also personaly know at least two gay priests, and openly > > gay at that. How long before the church sanctions gay marriages I > > wonder? > > > > I have been a beliver for all of my adult life and I have seen much > > change in religon during this time. In fact just today I read that > > Pagan Police have been given the go ahead for their own Pagan Police > > federation. > > > > On 16 July, 23:40, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > That's just a cosmetic change. The base ideas of the religion still > > > teach the same thing, the rule of the religion still dictates what is > > > right at the bottom line in the decision making process. > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > On Jul 16, 4:49 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Well we have already shown that it does in fact change. Look at > > > > female ordained preists for example. > > > > > > On 16 July, 02:55, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Personally, I think religion is the doom of Society, because it > > > > > doesn't change. > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 5:28 am, "[email protected]" < > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > That's the problem with religous dogma, too hard and unbending. > > > > > > Religion must change as society does or it is doomed. > > > > > > > > On 11 July, 03:18, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > All religious dogmas aim at reducing human faults. When they > are > > > > > > > carried beyond the time and place they were developed for, they > begin > > > > > > > to cause problems. > > > > > > > > > peace & love > > > > > > > > > On Jul 10, 5:32 am, alexandra laughton < > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sure bible has it's faults but it just aims at reducing > human ones. > > > > > > > > human mind has not progressed enough to support the > developments & > > > > > > > > inventions around it.H > > > > > > > > ence the new testament- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
