That was funny. It's hard to believe how much Clyde acted like a
human. Or maybe it isn't? ;-]

On Jul 22, 3:39 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> What was that line out of a famous movie scene? "Right turn Clyde! "
> Allan
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Chris Jenkins
> <[email protected]>wrote:
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> > From another list I'm on...chimps may not be our closest relative after
> > all?
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> >  From the Pittsburgh-Tribune Review. Anyone interested in a pdf of the
> > original article please let me know. John Grehan
> > *Pitt anthropologist argues humans more like orangutans than chimps*
> > A University of Pittsburgh anthropologist argues in a paper published today
> > that humans most likely share a common ancestor with orangutans, and not
> > chimpanzees, which is the prevailing belief.
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> > Jeffrey H. Schwartz hopes the paper will get researchers to practice
> > fundamental science and question some assumptions.
> > "What I'll be happy with is if people actually think out of the box and
> > consider alternative theories of human relationships with apes," Schwartz
> > said Wednesday in a phone interview from Zagreb, Croatia.
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> > He concedes it won't happen overnight, but the paper in the Journal of
> > Biogeography that he co-authored could help, said Schwartz, who's the
> > president of the World Academy of Art and Science.
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> > "We've done the analysis," said John Grehan, who is the paper's other
> > co-author, director of science at the Buffalo Museum in New York and a
> > research associate at the Carnegie Museum of Natural History.
>
> > Jeffrey L. Boore, an adjunct biology professor at the University of
> > California-Berkeley who specializes in interpretive genome sequences, said
> > he knows of no strong reason to discount the DNA studies that have
> > demonstrated chimps and gorillas are more closely related to humans than
> > orangutans.
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> > "The overwhelming majority of those studies have given very strong support
> > to excluding orangutans from the human-chimp-gorilla group," said Boore,
> > who's also CEO of Genome Project Solutions, Inc., in Hercules, Calif.
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> > "If people disagree with it, they need to put out their evidence and let it
> > go back and forth," said Grehan, an entomologist who also studies the origin
> > and evolution of animals and plants. "But I think a lot of people are
> > incapable of dealing with it."
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> > That's because for years most of the scientific community accepted DNA
> > analyses that suggest humans are most closely related to chimps, Schwartz
> > and Grehan said.
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> > But an examination of fossil and other evidence shows humans and orangutans
> > share 28 features -- including reproductive systems, tooth structures and
> > mouth palates, the scientists say.
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> > Schwartz and Grehan write in their paper that humans share only two
> > features with chimpanzees and seven with gorillas.
> > "In science, you must integrate the fossil record with the living record,"
> > Grehan said. "That's what we've done."
> > They propose a scenario that explains the migration of the human-orangutan
> > common ancestor from Southeast Asia, where modern orangutans are from.
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> > The molecular evidence that scientists commonly cite to demonstrate the
> > link between humans and chimps is flawed, Schwartz said.
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> > "Only 2 percent of the entire human genome can be verified," he said. "But
> > people are saying that chimps and humans share 98 percent of some portion of
> > that 2 percent to make their case."
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> > That's not good science, said Malte Ebach, a paleontologist at Arizona
> > State University's International Institute for Species Exploration, who,
> > like Grehan, studies the origin and evolution of animals and plants.
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> > "People think DNA data is better because they perceive it as
> > technologically superior and more progressive," Ebach said. "But technology
> > doesn't make data better."
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> > Schwartz proposed his human-orangutan theory in 1982. He wrote the book,
> > "The Red Ape: Orangutans and Human Origins," in 1986 that expanded on those
> > ideas. In 2005, Schwartz published and revised an updated version of the
> > book.
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> > The work was ignored as molecular studies came out that showed the
> > similarity between chimps and humans.
> > Grehan said alternative views should not be dismissed when a theory becomes
> > so accepted.
> > During the mid-20th century, scientists so fervently disagreed with Barbara
> > McClintock's theory that genes could move along a chromosome that she
> > stopped publishing, Grehan said. In 1983, McClintock won a Nobel Prize for
> > her research in "jumping genes."
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> > Subscription options and archives available:
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