Yes on the whole I agree Deripsni,

Yet we can and do change how we choose to react to these established
values.  I was reared as a racist, I am not a racist.

Once we start to use our reason, many, many, many 'established values'
can be examined and if need be our reaction to them can be changed.
What enables that change?

On 23 July, 13:16, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am not sure I would catagorize perception as controlled, but more
> reactionary, similar to an opinion. To me, an opinion isn't contrived,
> but is the result of variables, such as a comparison to established
> moral values, preferred individual taste, etc. We do not choose to
> like or dislike something, it is a reaction to established values,
> imho.
>
> On Jul 23, 6:23 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mollay asks:
>
> > 'Do we have the power to create our realities?  Are we in control?
> > What do YOU think?
>
> > In many ways we do create our relalities, in the ways of how we
> > percive things certianly.  In realtion to how the world really is,
> > maybe not so much.
>
> > If we each look at a tree in the park, it is the same tree that we
> > stare at, even if our notice picks out things that others do not.  So
> > the tree is real, our perception of the tree may differ.
>
> > We do have the power of veto and I have long argued that this is the
> > very basis of free will, so yes the fact that we can and do make
> > descicions means we are in control.  Think of it like a cars gears.
>
> > Those that drive automatics cut out the need to manualy depress and
> > engage the clutch, the clutch is still engaged though, but the car
> > does not yet drive itself.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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