I wonder if that also applies to full moons. They are far more
frequent than eclipses. This might be a way for we philosophers to
make a buck! J

On Jul 23, 1:51 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Eclipse may be right Slip - some Danish researcher has discovered that
> if one unloaded shares before an eclipse and bought them back again
> afterwards since 1928 profits are doubled.  If only my pension people
> had known!  On control, I have long believed we are controlled in some
> way similar to pack animals that cede reproduction to the alphas.  We
> need something that encourages us to contribute and build capital, but
> seem to have this way out of balance.  I'm not convinced the focus on
> positive individualism is the way and feel we need alternatives
> (competition) to the money-go-round to let us build.
>
> On 23 July, 05:43, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > A great state of awareness, Slip !
>
> > And I agree, it's easy to live ' post - mortem ' lives. It takes a lot
> > to form a focus, sustain self - belief, overtake the inner processes
> > to align its output, and consequently impact the outer events.
>
> > It's a drain, and oftentimes immensely trying. Untill, one realises
> > its transcendent ( source and ) value.
>
> > On Jul 23, 1:16 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I mostly disagree with that assessment.  Perhaps in short span time
> > > constraint moments there is a rash decision process that poses mere
> > > split second evaluation.  But generally I find that pondering an idea
> > > easily allows for the self to initiate free will while directing focus
> > > on a desired outcome.  I think this is exactly what differentiates how
> > > few of us project their realities from most who don't seem to grasp
> > > the idea and live in a post state reality always wondering what
> > > happened.  This may be at the core of human frailty and inability to
> > > coalesce.  I think it takes a great deal of mental energy to achieve
> > > the state of being in control but I see it as highly possible and feel
> > > I've accomplished much by living it.  I often project on a potential
> > > reality then focus on what remedies are necessary for a satisfactory
> > > end result should the potential transition to actual.  I see it as
> > > being one step ahead of what Libet is suggesting.  My "self" projects,
> > > my brain decides and then I become aware of the decision which I still
> > > can veto at the last minute, it's an exercise of my free will.
>
> > > On Jul 22, 9:29 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Are we in control of ourselves, our lives, our families, our worlds?
> > > > Or are we just aware and knowing what one can do if something
> > > > unpredictable happens?
> > > > There are many explanations for why we do what we do.  For example,
> > > > Thomas Metzinger's new Book, The Ego Tunnel: The Science of the Mind
> > > > and the Myth of the Self, seriously questions whether there is even an
> > > > "I", let alone a "we." And Douglas Hofstadter's book, I Am a Strange
> > > > Loop, contends that the "self" is a recursively self-referencing
> > > > memory loop.
>
> > > > Hundreds of experiments by Benjamin Libet and others tend to
> > > > conclusively confirm that our brain prepares to execute our decisions
> > > > before we are even aware that anything is being decided. It alerts us
> > > > to our decisions only in time (a split second) for us to veto them.
>
> > > > Seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Libet, as well as Benjamin
> > > > Libet's book, Mind Time, and Walter J. Freeman's book, How Brains Make
> > > > Up Their Minds.
>
> > > > It is quite likely that we have no so-called "free will" other than
> > > > veto power over our specific actions. Our free will may consist
> > > > instead of 1) being mindful about any ill-serving subliminal
> > > > intentions and tendencies that inform our actions so that we are
> > > > accordingly prepared to veto any action that they correspondingly
> > > > inform, and of 2) programming (or reprogramming) our subliminal
> > > > intentions to be more productive of the experiencing that we most
> > > > desire.
>
> > > > Do we have the power to create our realities?  Are we in control?
> > > > What do YOU think?- Hide quoted text -
>
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