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On Jul 26, 6:48 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thorn, I spoke of the European Model, not merely of their welfare
> policy and taxation structure !  I see the latter as variables, that
> people in different nations may customise.
>
> What is of abiding interest, to me, is the spirit of cooperation it
> naturalises among ( formerly, at times, bitterly sparring ) nations,
> and makes it largely acceptable among citizens of diverse cultures in
> the many nations constituting the Community Of Nations.
>
> It is so much more effective at nurturing and fostering the
> transnational cooperation than, say,  the UN. Perhaps, because the EU
> Model is more democratic and representative of the common people
> within it. In stark contrast, the UN is only representative of the
> Govts in different countries, and that too is inequitous.
>
> It may be very difficult for the US, and American chauvinists, to
> appreciate that the UN ( which the US dominates ) is so lousy in
> effect compared to the EU ( which no one in particular overides ).
>
> On Jul 26, 6:47 am, Thorn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I must say something about Eurpope leading the way for the poor..now
> > they get taxed 50% of their paycheck and this is half of what they
> > make so therefore this does keep the poor poor all their life until
> > they get aged..and then they get some what of a house or apt...and
> > medical ..than for a hip surgery you might get in at two years down
> > the line so let me ask you this so God forbid if that is a good
> > structure.....the poor should be thankful for that one -instead of
> > having more of their paycheck so they can live a better quailty life
> > while their younger and their family's..
> > thorn of a rose
> > On Jul 24, 11:53 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I 'd agree, Don !  Not just the bomb, there are several very powerful
> > > despots / despotic cliques riding their respective proverbial tigers.
> > > There are massive armies, much arms and armaments around, quite some
> > > with non - state actors, too.  Several basic resources are projected
> > > to be in short supply.  There is this very real danger of present
> > > inequities getting far too magnified, eroding belief, respect and
> > > committment to ' universal ' values.
>
> > > I believe that at some stage, we would not be able to afford power -
> > > and money - found competition.  Much will depend on whether we are
> > > able to live in cooperation, despite differences in power and riches,
> > > and national interests.  Cooperation at reducing pollution, and global
> > > warming, at making appropriate technologies available to poor and
> > > developing economies, whatever their capacity to afford, would
>
> > > It is in this respect that the European model shows the way.  And, EU
> > > could do this still better.
>
> > > On Jul 24, 11:12 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Sheesh.  I thought I had a swollen head.  This guy knows what it's
> > > > like to be the smartest person in the room.  That said, how in the
> > > > world can you speculate about 20 years from now and not even once
> > > > mention da BOMB?  I'm sure he did it on purpose but why?  Assuming
> > > > Europe isn't a giant crater by 2030 he may very well be correct.
> > > > Socialism will prevent people from improving themselves so our current
> > > > super-rich will become richer and not have to worry about competition
> > > > from new super-rich folk.  Europe's combined GDP has been larger then
> > > > the U.S. for several years now and I don't see that changing; ever.  I
> > > > personally believe even without a nuke going off in a major city his
> > > > outlook is entirely too rosy.
>
> > > > dj
>
> > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:58 AM, 
> > > > frantheman<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > This is one vision of a possible world future:
>
> > > > >http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,637830,00.html
>
> > > > > Any comments?
>
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