No sir, I'm normal in my dealings with Life in general. Except for the BLitTeR mobile and 'always' wearing BLitTeR t-shirts. I have a brief 'elevator speech' for any questions.
It's simple man, just wallow in Life :-) On the face to face I'm capable of an intensity that precludes the need for slapping. I could sell and/or profit with the idea as a religion, but then it would fail as all religion has to form the 'pure' mind link that is needed for the beginning point of Unity. Space is here and now too :-) peace & Love On Jul 30, 3:12 pm, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jul 29, 6:51 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > 'Owning' Life here and now is the absolute, from my view. My mantra > > is; Love is All is God is Love is All is God is Love is All is God > > is... I've been round the infinite circle with it, the universe comes > > back as the energy that creates the matter of our physical world. Hows > > that for "out there"? > > Do you literally talk this way all the time? Say you are chatting > with someone at the hardware store? > > > I would argue that you 'are' "really here" and that the disconnection > > is in/through your mind. I think it's okay to escape "really here" for > > rest/recreation/inspiration but feel it is escapism to deny Life as > > the base from which one wanders. > > Well I am going to need a "here and now" trainer. Are you > available? > I would imagine getting slapped in the face a lot, but I bet you would > not take that approach > > > I would argue again that you seem to have a great deal of training in > > the here and now, with only a slight tendency to give authority to > > 'other than' here and now (re. "I may or may not be on the cutting > > edge of reality"). > > I am a space cadet tinker. I don't spend 10% in the here and now > > > > > peace & Love > > > On Jul 29, 12:01 pm, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Jul 28, 6:05 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > To be alive is to own Life, here and now. > > > > This seems to be your mantra. I am all for living in the now, but it > > > is damn hard. I am sort of a space cadet. Do you offer specific ways > > > of doing this? (assuming that is what you mean, it is still unclear to > > > me) > > > > In other words, when I am thinking about something, I am doing it in > > > the now, but I am not really here. I may or may not be on the cutting > > > edge of reality, I am certainly not paying attention to the external > > > world. Is that OK? (it doesn't seem that OK) > > > > Let me give you an example. When I went to Hawaii, I wanted to > > > "take it in" as much as humanly possible. I really enjoyed it, but I > > > got the nagging feeling that I was not able to take it in. Not fully. > > > I spent time "absorbing" it, feeling it, smelling it, wallowing in it > > > (wallowing is really fun, are you a wallower?) > > > > I don't think I have the proper training in the here and now. What > > > would be really great is if you could elaborate more. In a language I > > > can understand. So far, your language is semi-foreign to me > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > On Jul 28, 12:02 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > In the course of the recent discussion here concerning the reposting > > > > > of Minds Eye contributions in other internet fora, the question of > > > > > copyright arose. It got me to thinking about the idea of intellectual > > > > > ownership and the idea of possession in general. > > > > > > We have all seen the Westerns in which the Native Americans sold away > > > > > title to land for nothing, or pittances because the white man's > > > > > concept of "owning" land was incomprehensible to them. Throughout > > > > > history, many of those whom we regard as great thinkers have been very > > > > > critical of the benefits of possessions and owning things. Indeed, a > > > > > controversy centred on the absolute poverty of Christ raged throughout > > > > > the medieval Christian Church and completely split the Franciscan > > > > > movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > > > > > Franciscans#Renewed_controversy_on_the_question_of_poverty). In this > > > > > context, it is perhaps interesting to note that one of the all-time > > > > > heroes here on Minds Eye, William of Occam, was a proponent of the > > > > > principle of absolute poverty and lost his job as English Franciscan > > > > > provincial and was excommunicated as a result. > > > > > > Personally I spent almost a decade as a Dominican friar, during which > > > > > time I took a "vow of poverty." I don't want to go into a discussion > > > > > on the extent to which Catholic monks actually live according to this > > > > > vow here, personally, I always found it to be the expression of an > > > > > attitude of freedom from a dictatorship of "things." It may also have > > > > > left an indelible mark on me in that in almost a quarter of a century > > > > > since leaving the order I have been pretty bad at earning, > > > > > accumulating and retaining material wealth and possessions. During my > > > > > life I have gone through a number of pretty radical changes, which > > > > > have often involved leaving nearly everything behind and starting > > > > > again. Such processes have been, inevitably, traumatic, although not > > > > > necessarily negative. One of the things that has helped is the fact > > > > > that I have never felt particularly attached to "things". But maybe my > > > > > sense of "ownership" is just underdeveloped, or damaged! > > > > > > There's a German saying which states that "he who has possessions has > > > > > worries." Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, one of the founders (!) of modern > > > > > anarchism went farther with his statement that "property is theft." > > > > > What does it mean to "own" something anyway? > > > > > > To use Molly's words: What do you think? > > > > > > Francis- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
