When one team plays another they state that they are playing "our"
opponent, not "my" opponent. If one is part of a team the words my,
mine and I are seldom used.

On Jul 30, 6:43 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't know the show or the character of the investigator but I'd
> guess it was just a way to differentiate his victim(the one he's
> assigned to) from some other murdered person.  I don't see it as
> claiming ownership.  My brother, my sister, my school, my band, my job
> etc.  Doesn't so much claim ownership but more like claims belonging
> and/or allegiance.
>
> I have learned it's generally not a good idea to grow attached to
> 'things.'  The only thing I might dash into a burning building to
> retrieve is my guitar.  A Gibson acoustic given as a wedding gift from
> my wife.  Beautiful mellow tonal quality.  Superbly unique as well.
> I'd never seen anyone with one until The Edge played one just like
> mine at a late night U2 appearance on The Conan O'Brien Show a few
> years ago.  Judging by the serial number mine was the second one made.
>  I wouldn't take 10 thousand for it but I'm sure it's probably only
> worth 2 or 3.  I love that guitar and it is MINE.
>
> Now, when we get into property rights or Bush's theme of an 'ownership
> society' we are talking about a whole different ball of wax I'm
> assuming Fran wasn't really referring to.  Someone has already stated
> the relationship to freedom.  This link helps describe some of the
> reasons I happen to agree with this connection.  Broadly speaking,
> laws defending ownership stimulate economic growth.
>
> http://www.heritage.org/index/Default.aspx
>
> dj
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:50 AM, deripsni<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I repeat, its the teams job, with the help of the community. If the
> > lead investigator wants to the take the input and help of others and
> > make it his/her own, in my mind thats the actions of an insecure
> > person enforcing their position. If you prefer to see it differently,
> > thats okay ;-]
>
> > On Jul 29, 7:47 pm, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>   Could it possibly be you are taking that innocent little phrase a
> >> tad too far?  The lead investigator is in charge.  I am grateful that
> >> they take a strong personal responsibility to find out not only what
> >> happened but to catch the murderer.  To bring in the OJ case seems an
> >> odd support piece of your argument.  Catching the suspect with enough
> >> evidence to go to court with is the guy's job,  and that is the
> >> beginning of justice yes, but not the final result.
>
> >> On Jul 29, 1:00 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > A homicide investigation typically involves many people, not just the
> >> > lead investigator. He/She gets assigned to the case and its a team and
> >> > community effort, not one persons. There is no "I" in team. Calling
> >> > the victim "mine" seems to negate the involvement of the team and the
> >> > community, without which many crimes would not get solved. Although
> >> > the investigator may be on a truth finding mission, unfortunately
> >> > justice isn't a police function, but a function of the court. Police
> >> > worked very hard on the OJ case, but was justice a result of their
> >> > efforts?
>
> >> > On Jul 29, 2:38 pm, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > Although I agree with your view on ownership, I do not agree at all
> >> > > with the following:
>
> >> > > On Jul 29, 5:04 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > >  For example, on the "First 48" show the other day, the lead
>
> >> > > > homicide detective referred to the person who had been murdered as 
> >> > > > "my
> >> > > > victim". Pesonally, I would think that if ownership of the victim 
> >> > > > were
> >> > > > allotted to anyone, it would be family members. I think it would be
> >> > > > safe to say that the person who said this is dwarfed by insecurity 
> >> > > > and/
> >> > > > or carried away by a need to reinforce his position of power.
>
> >> > >    I don't see it that way in the least.  This is a guy who is
> >> > > commited to finding the killer of this person.  He has made it his
> >> > > personal mission,  he has "owned" that responsibility and takes it
> >> > > very seriously.  Nobody else is going to do that job but him.  The
> >> > > family is not equipped to do it. He is providing a service of truth
> >> > > finding and justice.   Saying it another way might actually make it
> >> > > easier to not take it so seriously.  "It is just another victim" for
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