You are so wordy.  Everybody in here is so wordy.  I like to condense
and boil down,  but I am still your groupie.

On Jul 31, 8:17 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think people that often correlated disaster, disease and death with
> retribution from a vengeful God would most likely make every effort to
> appease or satiate by any means available.   A massive storm may have
> been attributed to a tribal member's failure or deviation from tribal
> law which triggered God's retributive anger and therefore called for
> ceremonial sacrificing or other method of atonement and reconciliation
> with God.  Considering that people had a high level of fear concerning
> God it is easy to see that adoration and praise would be standard
> fair.  Concerning our parents we can see that whether of not we had
> respect or shown obedience we never really worried that a huge rock
> would fall off a mountain and kill us on account of that disrespect.
> Much of what we perceive about God stems from our own behavior, after
> all we do punish our children when they misbehave and some parents
> actually disown theirs and so we would think that God is punishing us
> when we are doing something wrong, which of course is determined by
> the tenets and dogmas that were laid out by the Prophets, Scribes,
> Pharisees and Priests of the time.  Once they learned that the people
> would follow their dictum the control issues became more apparent and
> of course tithing and respect was directed to them, the
> representatives of God.  It's really easy to see how it all evolves
> into what we have today.  As time went on people in the clergy started
> to realize those at the top were making more money and so they would
> find some way to disagree with scriptural texts and then branch off on
> their own thereby establishing themselves as a separate entity and
> authority which raked in the funds from those who would follow them,
> many times of course the tenets were less restrictive which was an
> attraction for those who didn't like following all the rules to the
> letter.   It's still happening today with store front churches
> springing up on every corner.  Let's face it, all you need is a bible,
> the ability to read and interpret, and a fancy name like church of the
> heavenly lamb, oh yeah, don't forget the wicker baskets to pass
> around.  TV evangelists are raking in billions of dollars so the
> incentive is there to start your own congregation.
>
> On Jul 31, 3:44 pm, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 31, 11:53 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I believe it to be a human trait to honor those before us and those
> > > who brought us into the world, such as parental figures and
> > > grandparents.
>
> > OK, I can see that, but mine didn't expect "praise"  they only
> > required respect.  Not the bow down kind, just the "quit being a
> > smartass" kind (which didn't exactly "take" did it)  and perhaps
> > "thanks" which I certainly can understand.  But a true omni god would
> > not require *any* of that,  the way I look at it.  It knows
> > everything, understands everything, so there is no need whatsoever.
> > A true onmi-god does not have an ego that needs to be stroked by its
> > own creations (which is the most hilarious concept I can think of)
>
> >  >I just don't get all the fear mongering based on belief
>
> > > and disbelief, being saved and the threat of destruction and torture
> > > in the abyss of some hell.
>
> > That part seems like a "control"  thing to me, but that is just the
> > way I interpret it.
>
> > > On Jul 31, 12:52 pm, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 31, 9:37 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Yeah exactly, I see prayer as no more than singing the praises of the
> > > > > creator, that and only that.
>
> > > > I don't understand why the creator needs praise- Hide quoted text -
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