OK so you took that Einstein quote from my profile, now what?
On Aug 1, 10:24 am, puppy <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It
> takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage - to move in the
> opposite direction."
> Albert Einstein
>
> On Jul 31, 8:17 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I think people that often correlated disaster, disease and death with
> > retribution from a vengeful God would most likely make every effort to
> > appease or satiate by any means available. A massive storm may have
> > been attributed to a tribal member's failure or deviation from tribal
> > law which triggered God's retributive anger and therefore called for
> > ceremonial sacrificing or other method of atonement and reconciliation
> > with God. Considering that people had a high level of fear concerning
> > God it is easy to see that adoration and praise would be standard
> > fair. Concerning our parents we can see that whether of not we had
> > respect or shown obedience we never really worried that a huge rock
> > would fall off a mountain and kill us on account of that disrespect.
> > Much of what we perceive about God stems from our own behavior, after
> > all we do punish our children when they misbehave and some parents
> > actually disown theirs and so we would think that God is punishing us
> > when we are doing something wrong, which of course is determined by
> > the tenets and dogmas that were laid out by the Prophets, Scribes,
> > Pharisees and Priests of the time. Once they learned that the people
> > would follow their dictum the control issues became more apparent and
> > of course tithing and respect was directed to them, the
> > representatives of God. It's really easy to see how it all evolves
> > into what we have today. As time went on people in the clergy started
> > to realize those at the top were making more money and so they would
> > find some way to disagree with scriptural texts and then branch off on
> > their own thereby establishing themselves as a separate entity and
> > authority which raked in the funds from those who would follow them,
> > many times of course the tenets were less restrictive which was an
> > attraction for those who didn't like following all the rules to the
> > letter. It's still happening today with store front churches
> > springing up on every corner. Let's face it, all you need is a bible,
> > the ability to read and interpret, and a fancy name like church of the
> > heavenly lamb, oh yeah, don't forget the wicker baskets to pass
> > around. TV evangelists are raking in billions of dollars so the
> > incentive is there to start your own congregation.
>
> > On Jul 31, 3:44 pm, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 31, 11:53 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I believe it to be a human trait to honor those before us and those
> > > > who brought us into the world, such as parental figures and
> > > > grandparents.
>
> > > OK, I can see that, but mine didn't expect "praise" they only
> > > required respect. Not the bow down kind, just the "quit being a
> > > smartass" kind (which didn't exactly "take" did it) and perhaps
> > > "thanks" which I certainly can understand. But a true omni god would
> > > not require *any* of that, the way I look at it. It knows
> > > everything, understands everything, so there is no need whatsoever.
> > > A true onmi-god does not have an ego that needs to be stroked by its
> > > own creations (which is the most hilarious concept I can think of)
>
> > > >I just don't get all the fear mongering based on belief
>
> > > > and disbelief, being saved and the threat of destruction and torture
> > > > in the abyss of some hell.
>
> > > That part seems like a "control" thing to me, but that is just the
> > > way I interpret it.
>
> > > > On Jul 31, 12:52 pm, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jul 31, 9:37 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Yeah exactly, I see prayer as no more than singing the praises of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > creator, that and only that.
>
> > > > > I don't understand why the creator needs praise- Hide quoted text -
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