I think your question may be cause for a new thread but briefly, my disenchantment with human life is a direct result from 3 specific experiences that occured over 30 years ago. Words and titles do not come close to describing them, so I will not attempt to do so.
Have you ever had an experience that gave you extreme pleasure, even made your heart flutter? Maybe it was a nature rush or the sharing of intimate love? Can you imagine what life would be like if you could take all of these nanoseconds of bliss and stack them together to make up continuous time? Can you imagine saturating this bliss with the ability to contemplate a million things at the same time? If you can, this will give you a miniature snapshot of these experiences. After the first incident I was absolutely thrilled, although I had no idea what had occurred. I wanted to experience it again in order to determine if it was some sort of freakish abnormality, or if it was something consistant in nature. Although there was nothing I could do to force the occurance to happen again, I kept the feeling close to my consciousness and several weeks later felt the pulling again. I succumbed to the magnetic invitation and experienced the same thing again. I went through the process a third time and, determining that I had experienced what life after death would be like, I said to my "host", "Thank you for the experience. I am totally convinced. There is no need to visit me again." "It" hasn't. After these experiences the thrill of humanity quickly wore off and I have been yearning for this "state" ever since. Please note that my desire for the permanance of this state is not an indication of depression. I have never really experienced depression and live in a cocoon of consistant joy, warmed to this day by the depth and bliss of these ancient experiences. I realize that this is a vague description and trust you will accept my inability to do a better job at painting a picture of the events that led to my human demise! ;-] On Aug 7, 7:15 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > I think that Vam's point about the cycle of birth/death allowing a > somewhat manageable population for the human race is a good one. > Although after a night of contemplation on this I think that there is > more for us and we as a race are headed there. What struck me about > this question is this. If we can and do spontaneously heal, will we > die? Why should we? I look around and people my age and can see the > difference in physical signs of aging, I have somehow managed to slow > those down for myself and I suspect the change in medical model. I > don't think we will need an external agent to slow or stop the death > process if this is the case. Then I had to ask myself, what are the > implications for this? If we can retain our vitality, we surpass the > physical need for death. I have always considered death to be a > decision of the soul, and a conscious decision like D's very rare. > But I also know that when we reach the point that we realize all > others as self, we are no longer bound to the karmic cause and effect > laws, so this time, we have surpassed the need for death at the end of > this life to fulfill soul purpose. D many have given us clues to the > need of spirit for death - why is "after life" more desirable than > current life? So I will ask you, deripsni, what is your viewpoint to > this? > > To me, this question is pure speculation and like asking how our lives > would improve if we didn't need to sleep. For me, there is more than > physical rest to sleep, my creative mind, soul and spirit take > flight. My conscious mind also participates by being given clues that > present possibilities not before recognized. Without this nightly > process, I would need to have integrated all that I do in sleep into > my waking life. This may be possible and where we are headed if we > ever are able to let go of the big sleep. > > On Aug 7, 6:10 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The experiences of several OBE's has written my epitaph as a human, > > although the remnants of such still survive. I have a strong desire to > > be "there", and extending human life "forever" is the farthest thing > > from my mind. If they come up with some miraculous drug or whatever > > that can bring about endless life, I will politely decline. > > > On Aug 6, 4:01 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Many of the recent threads - evolution, non-medical healing, are we in > > > control, Feynman's mysteries, etc. - seem to dance around on the > > > wavecrest of scientific discoveries. It strikes me that, given the > > > major scientific advances in recent decades and the increasing speed > > > of scientific progress, in the foreseeable future - 100 years maybe - > > > humans may be able to elect to live without aging. We might well be > > > able to maintain our bodies at age 30 or 40 or whatever as long as we > > > like. In other words, we might be able to choose to live forever. > > > If we accept that as a possibility, I wonder what sort of > > > philosophical issues it raises. How might our view of life and death > > > be changed, if at all? How would our economies adapt? Would people > > > still marry for life? Would it change communities? Would our > > > objectives - happy life, great wealth, friendships, learning, travel > > > etc. - change, and if so how? And how would we settle such issues? > > > Anyone care to pursue this thread? 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