On Aug 17, 9:01 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I'm going to assume then by your tone and words that you do not agree
> with free healthcare for all?

You would assume incorrectly. I see it as an "economic problem"  that
is a burden for all.  I do not see health care as a "right" but I
think it needs to be overhauled so that it can be sustainable.

> However giving food and housing to those
> who realy can't do so for themselfs seems like the humanitrian thing
> to do, yes bloody good ide aold chap.

Would you differentiate those who "can't" with those who "won't?"
> > It is changing a privilege into a NEED that is the dangerous idea.
>
> Sorry I just don't get this.  How does this logic work then?

It gets tricky when you start using the word "right" and the word
"fair"  (I would love to get into those. I think those are two of the
most interestingly defined words)

  Just a quick question. Let's say you believe that health care is a
"right."  Let's say a person decides he is going to eat nothing but
junk food, smoke and drink, and balloon to 300 pounds. Would you be
taking away his right to do that?

> Umm what are taxes for?  And is not the USA a very rich nation?

Gawd, here we go....look, let me get back to you on the 1200 gallon of
worms you just opened.


> > The last thing anybody wants to do is keep the poor poor.  You miss
> > that part.
>
> Well I don't know about that.  How else can you explain what appears
> to be such vitorl directed towards what is really a splendid
> humaniterian idea.

Because the underlying principles and values, not to mention the
unforseen consequences are misunderstood?

> Really Socialist ideas are not evil, they will not bleed the hard
> earned cash of the working class man, I really don't get it.

I didn't say they were, but I will say I think there should be limits.
Why is it always that the rich can be so easily bled?  (I am not rich
at all for the record, I drive a Honda with a 1.5 engine OK?  These
are "concepts" here)
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