The Gabby enigma, how consistent.

You "can't remember" how you answered your french teacher but you
"remember" the question?
So you can't remember and remember at the same time.  Is that like
selective memory?

It was punishment? Why is that?  Maybe you felt inadequate,
incomplete, unprepared?

Ah, busy ignoring the subject matter while discussing sweaty armpits
with your friend.

So what does this have to do with Sartre?



On Aug 23, 5:23 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> I honestly cannot remember how I answered my French teacher when he
> asked me to compare the philosophy of Sartre to the one of Camus. But
> I do remember the question, because it was his sort of punishment,
> because my friend and seat neighbour and I were quietly discussing how
> it was possible that the teacher's shirt always showed his sweaty
> armpits, no matter what time of the year it was. ;-)
>
> On 23 Aug., 21:00, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > would you rather Sartre said it?
>
> >http://www.tc.umn.edu/~parkx032/AU67.html
>
> > On Aug 23, 1:57 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "understanding the meaninglessness" - puh, Molly, I know I've been
> > > down to saying very stupid things, but at least I always knew they
> > > were, I didn't label them dot dot dot for the other to come up with
> > > something I can't think of and use it for my own benefit.
>
> > > On 23 Aug., 16:16, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > there are times when, only by understanding the meaninglessness, new
> > > > meaning can emerge...
>
> > > > On Aug 22, 7:23 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I guess the thing I wish we could get 'timely' about would be truth
> > > > > and reconciliation.  I begin to believe the 'conspiracy' is to make
> > > > > life meaningless.
>
> > > > > On 22 Aug, 17:49, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > How synchronistic...I know that Pat recently had a bout of the flu
> > > > > > also...
>
> > > > > > On Aug 22, 12:33 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > The microbes and the antibiotics - I sympathise with you, Neil. I
> > > > > > > recently spent three weeks daily swallowing a not insignificant 
> > > > > > > dose
> > > > > > > of doxycycline to deal with an incipient borelliosis (Lyme 
> > > > > > > disease) -
>
> > >  > > damned ticks! There's something quite stressful about feeling out
> > > of
>
> > > > > > > sorts and not even being sure if its the illness itself or the
> > > > > > > antibiotic treatment for it that's causing the discomfort. I wish 
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > a speedy recovery ...
>
> > > > > > > Francis
>
> > > > > > > On 22 Aug., 17:11, archytas <nwte...@googlemailcom> wroote:
>
> > > > > > > > The concept of self, or more specifically the sense of unity of 
> > > > > > > > self,
> > > > > > > > has both synchronic ('I seem to be a uniied self aat any given
>
> > > > > > moment' and ddiachrnicc ('I seem to be the same self as I was a few
> > > > > > > > minutes/hours/months/years ago') aspects.  Currently, I am 
> > > > > > > > feeling
> > > > > > > > rather broken - like my watch with the dud battery, but with 
> > > > > > > > the added
> > > > > > > > knowledge (Slip was right) that my kinetic watch was stolen.  
> > > > > > > > I'd be
> > > > > > > > intuiting Orn but am otherwise engaged in a wa aggainst a micrbe
> > > > > > > > horde in need ofevvction frrom my glandular system and, unlike 
> > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > watch, am on tickover until the antibiotics triumph  Beforee 
> > > > > > > > Slip
> >> > > >  > > points out electronic watchs don'tt tick, let me say that this 
> >> > > > watch
> > > > > > > > has a very annoying, non-syncopating tick option, and my other
> > > > > > > > (stolen) watch may well be ticking to someone else's tune.  I 
> > > > > > > > am so
> > > > > > > > ill I hav develloped n inteerest in Willard Quine again and have
> > >> > > > > > somewhat naturalised my philosophy so as not to be too exposed 
> > >> > > > > > to the
> > > > > > > > risk of theoretical truth.  All this at a time I haven't had a 
> > > > > > > > drink
> > > > > > > > for two weeks Francis! - no doubt causing my current delusive 
> > > > > > > > state in
> > > > > > > > which England are regaining the Ashes.  Test Match Special will 
> > > > > > > > set
> > > > > > > > you free ...
>
> > > > > > > > On 22 Aug, 15:24, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > I am not expert of Jung, but have enjoyed his writing and 
> > > > > > > > > work now and
> > > > > > > > > then.  I think what this means is that there is something 
> > > > > > > > > more than
> > > > > > > > > what we think of as cause and effect at play here.  That 
> > > > > > > > > while, as
> > > > > > > > > Slip suggests, sychronistic events for us are responsive to 
> > > > > > > > > our
> > > > > >> > > indivdual thoughthts and feelings, we do not cause them to 
> > > > > >> > > come about
> > > > > > > > > like we cause a stone to roll by kicking it.  Synchronicity 
> > > > > > > > > is, I
> > > > > > > > > think, always at play in our lives, but our awareness of it 
> > > > > > > > > increases
> > > > > > > > > as our perception of the more subtle levels of being changes. 
> > > > > > > > >  We
> > > > > > > > > don't cause it, we become aware of it by tuning into it.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Aug 22, 7:37 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I would wonder the same thing about it all being acausal.  
> > > > > > > > > > I remember
> > > > > > > > > > when my mother in law died m wife,  a le long g devout 
> > > > > > > > > > catholic,
> > > > > > > > > > mentioned something about a sign, a butterfly that would 
> > > > > > > > > > appear.  I
> > > > > > > > > > always thought that to be coincidence but at the cemetery, 
> > > > > > > > > > there it
> > > > > > > > > > was, a large white butterfly that landed and stay for 
> > > > > > > > > > several minutes
> > > > > > > > > > then casually flew off.   I guess there is some 
> > > > > > > > > > synchronicity there,
> > > > > > > > > > in the death, the mention of and appearance of the 
> > > > > > > > > > butterfly.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Aug 22, 12:33 am, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Great question.As a belieer I wonderer why Jung calls 
> > > > > > > > > > > synchronicity
> > > > > > > > > > > 'acausal' in that esy "Synchrhronicity, An Acausal 
> > > > > > > > > > > Connecting
> > > > > > > > > >> Princcipl. Does s he embrace a Humean noion of  caulity 
> > > > > > > > > >> asas constant
> > > > > > > > > > > njunction n in whichcausess prede efffcts t temporally?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Yet I do find myself reluctt to jump inin with both feet 
> > > > > > > > > > > and call
> > > > > > > > > > > something a meaningful coincidence.  This is no doubt my 
> > > > > > > > > > > inner atheist
> > > > > > > > > > > whispering. As a believer I know synchronicity under a 
> > > > > > > > > > > different name:
> > > > > > > > > > > providence. God always meets our real needs. Sometimes I 
> > > > > > > > > > > see the
> > > > > > > > > > > pattern and call it providence.  Usually I do not, 
> > > > > > > > > > > perhaps because it
> > > > > > > > > > > is to bright for my minds eye.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 21, 5:08 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Synchronicity is a word that has come up now and then 
> > > > > > > > > > > > in these
> > > > > > > > > > > > discussions and is, I think, becoming more a part of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > our scientific
> > > > > > > > > > > > and philosophic paradigms.  Webster defines it as:  the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > quality or
> > > > > > > > > > > > state of being synchronous or simultaneous : 
> > > > > > > > > > > > concurrence of acts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > events, or developments in time : coincident movement 
> > > > > > > > > > > > or existence;
> > > > > > > > > > > > chronological arrangement of historical events and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > personages so as to
> > > > > > > > > > > > indicate coincidence or coexistence;  a representation 
> > > > > > > > > > > > in the same
> > > > > > > > > > > > picture of two or more events which occurred at 
> > > > > > > > > > > > different times.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jung required a larger framework for his idea of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > synchronicity, a
> > > > > > > > > > > > framework that reveals an underlying pattern for what 
> > > > > > > > > > > > he called
> > > > > > > > > > > > "temporally coincident occurrences of acausal events."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > What does synchronicity mean to you?  What role does it 
> > > > > > > > > > > > playin yourr
> > > > > > > > > > > > life?  What do YOU think?
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