I learned a long time ago not to be afraid of taking a fearless moral inventory of who I am I also learned to be gentle with myself. The one person I hurt most over the years is myself.. and I too deserve unconditional forgiveness. Allan
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:19 PM, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > > Yet we all make daily judgements of each other, I think therefore that > it is inevitable that we do so and part of what makes up the pyshcy of > a human. > > I get you though, the word judgement need not have negative > conertations, yet in this context, yep is sure does. > > On 26 Aug, 13:23, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > I to think that revenge is one of the baser human emotions,, > > > > I think learning to over come it and replace it with something else, is > the > > beginning of true spirituality It is better to understand than be > > understood. To want revenge is to stand in judgment. In my personal > beliefs > > I will be judged by how I judge others. I have a lot of short comings > and > > would personally prefer not to stand judgment. The only hope I have for > that > > is not to judge others. > > Even there I fail miserably. > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > I think that ultimately, revenge is a baser human emotion and one felt > > > in a more survival level meme of existence. I had to stretch 18 years > > > back to find an example, and I was a very different person then, one > > > just surviving on many levels. A person in the midst of losing almost > > > everything. These days, the issue does not come up for me and I think > > > that has much to do with how I perceive the world, my internal > > > environment is very different than it was back then. I have heard > > > there is a relationship between judgment and conflict, the more you > > > judge, the more conflict will come into your life. Probably the > > > essence of "judge not lest ye be judged." I have found it to be true. > > > > > Perhaps the stories of revenge touch us and become classic because, at > > > one time or another in our development, probably when we were young > > > and launching our life, we were so in the midst of surviving that > > > revenge was tempting. Then again, a big crisis, illness or loss will > > > knock us down a few memes temporarily, and we find ourselves in the > > > midst of it again. > > > > > What it is to be human is a complicated endeavor, and yet so simple. > > > Thanks to all my fellow humans here, for sharing the journey. > > > > > On Aug 26, 6:54 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > I have just finished readinging (again) one of my all time favourite > > > > books. Mary Shelly's Frankenstien. > > > > > > I find it asks all sorts of hugely philosophical questions, not least > > > > what it is to be human, and of course vengance is a central theme of > > > > the story. > > > > > > In the end both Frankensteins and the monsters quest for vengance > ends > > > > in the death of both. Both of their lifes are lost and none are the > > > > richer for it. As BB would have it 'just saying'. > > > > > > On 26 Aug, 10:20, showmethehoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Who was it that said "revenge is mine"? I think defining revenge is > a > > > > > bit dicey. Is it revengeful to sentence a criminal to a jail term > for > > > > > his actions? Is it revengeful to protect oneself when being struck? > Is > > > > > it revengeful to react when being accused of something that one > > > > > doesn't feel guilty of? Whether the action is "perceived" to be > wrong > > > > > or not, it is human nature to protect oneself when they feel > > > > > threatened or under attack. > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
