yes, we would not want to end up like this unlikely duo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYZhjLrSbUw&feature=fvw

On Aug 26, 3:46 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> I learned a long time ago not to be afraid of taking a fearless moral
> inventory of who I am I also learned to be gentle with myself. The one
> person I hurt most over the years is myself.. and I too deserve
> unconditional forgiveness.
> Allan
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:19 PM, [email protected] <
>
>
>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yet we all make daily judgements of each other, I think therefore that
> > it is inevitable that we do so and part of what makes up the pyshcy of
> > a human.
>
> > I get you though, the word judgement need not have negative
> > conertations, yet in this context, yep is sure does.
>
> > On 26 Aug, 13:23, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I to think that revenge is one of the baser human emotions,,
>
> > > I think learning to over come it and replace it with something else, is
> > the
> > > beginning of true spirituality It is better to understand than be
> > > understood. To want revenge is to stand in judgment.  In my personal
> > beliefs
> > > I will be judged by how I judge others.  I have a lot of short comings
> > and
> > > would personally prefer not to stand judgment. The only hope I have for
> > that
> > > is not to judge others.
> > > Even there I fail miserably.
> > > Allan
>
> > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > I think that ultimately, revenge is a baser human emotion and one felt
> > > > in a more survival level meme of existence.  I had to stretch 18 years
> > > > back to find an example, and I was a very different person then, one
> > > > just surviving on many levels.  A person in the midst of losing almost
> > > > everything.  These days, the issue does not come up for me and I think
> > > > that has much to do with how I perceive the world, my internal
> > > > environment is very different than it was back then.  I have heard
> > > > there is a relationship between judgment and conflict, the more you
> > > > judge, the more conflict will come into your life.  Probably the
> > > > essence of "judge not lest ye be judged."  I have found it to be true.
>
> > > > Perhaps the stories of revenge touch us and become classic because, at
> > > > one time or another in our development, probably when we were young
> > > > and launching our life, we were so in the midst of surviving that
> > > > revenge was tempting.  Then again, a big crisis, illness or loss will
> > > > knock us down a few memes temporarily, and we find ourselves in the
> > > > midst of it again.
>
> > > > What it is to be human is a complicated endeavor, and yet so simple.
> > > > Thanks to all my fellow humans here, for sharing the journey.
>
> > > > On Aug 26, 6:54 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I have just finished readinging (again) one of my all time favourite
> > > > > books.  Mary Shelly's Frankenstien.
>
> > > > > I find it asks all sorts of hugely philosophical questions, not least
> > > > > what it is to be human, and of course vengance is a central theme of
> > > > > the story.
>
> > > > > In the end both Frankensteins and the monsters quest for vengance
> > ends
> > > > > in the death of both. Both of their lifes are lost and none are the
> > > > > richer for it.  As BB would have it 'just saying'.
>
> > > > > On 26 Aug, 10:20, showmethehoney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Who was it that said "revenge is mine"? I think defining revenge is
> > a
> > > > > > bit dicey. Is it revengeful to sentence a criminal to a jail term
> > for
> > > > > > his actions? Is it revengeful to protect oneself when being struck?
> > Is
> > > > > > it revengeful to react when being accused of something that one
> > > > > > doesn't feel guilty of? Whether the action is "perceived" to be
> > wrong
> > > > > > or not, it is human nature to protect oneself when they feel
> > > > > > threatened or under attack.
>
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> I_D Allan
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