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On Aug 28, 7:38 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I guess you are correct Don, perhaps not for the reasons you invisage
> though?
>
> I can see what BB is talking about but he leaps from one point in the
> debate to another without explianing why.
> I can see the differances in our stances I would like to try to
> understand why we have them, for that to happen I'm willing to explian
> the reasoning behind my own yet when I ask for others to do the same,
> I basicly get shouted at.  I don't mind that as long as part of the
> shouting contians some form of explaination.
>
> On 28 Aug, 12:11, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It sounds to me like you'd like to see the elimination of commerce.  That is
> > impossible.  Ever since the first caveman traded a dead rabbit for sexual
> > favors we've had commerce and it is a part of society.  Everybody working
> > together and sharing everything equally might work if everyone WAS equal.
> > Some folks are harder workers, smarter, more knowledgeable, better looking
> > and have better teeth then others.   Until we're all clones of one another
> > we'll have commerce even if its some form of crude barter.  and we'll always
> > want what others have.
>
> > Ok, this question isn't even sarcastic.  I'm being serious.  How come I
> > understand exactly what BB is talking about and others don't?  If I believed
> > like R. Kennedy and Molly that most folks wanted to help everyone else I
> > might go right along with socialism with the rest of you guys.  But I
> > don't.  There's the rub.
>
> > dj
>
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:28 AM, [email protected] <
>
> > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Can you prove that in order for such a system to work that people
> > > > > would have to be forced to provied 'free stuff'?
>
> > > > You have not provided even an inkling of a "system"  let alone me
> > > > being able to prove anything against it.  You go ahead and show me how
> > > > it works and I will show you the force.
>
> > > Sorry BB that is not how it works.  Shall we remind ourselves what is
> > > going on here?
>
> > > I have given no system except to say lets ban money lets get rid of
> > > the whole concept of it.  I have admited that it is merely an
> > > idealsitic propersition and that I have no idea how to implement such
> > > a system.  But here is the crux.  You claimed that such a system would
> > > be unethical, I asked how so, you replied because it would force
> > > people into give you 'free stuff'
>
> > > My request to you is simply this, proove to me that such a system
> > > would force people into giving you free stuff.  You said it, you must
> > > belive it so show me why you belive it.  There is no question of my
> > > needing to proove any thing to you, I made no claims whilst you
> > > certianly have.
>
> > > > > Yes it is a legal requirment here in the UK to ensure that your
> > > > > children are educated.  I.E. If you let your child skip school you can
> > > > > be prosecuted.
>
> > > > Another lovely step taken in the "spirit" of the controlling state.
> > > > Are students jailed for failing to graduate?  You might want to add
> > > > that step next. And I think you should just force feed socialism and
> > > > communism in the curriculum while you are at it, as it is obviously
> > > > "correct" isn't it?  Of COURSE it is!  So why teach anything else?
> > > > You need to control all those wrong thoughts. Don't even let those bad
> > > > thoughts start.
>
> > > Come on now, lets not start with the 'unreasonable' leaps of
> > > sillyness.  Why would a legal requirment for parents to get their
> > > children educated end in arrest for students who fail to graduate?
> > > Get ahold of your temper man, and think about what you are putting
> > > down in writting here.
>
> > > >  Deciding what is best for others is best!  They don't "know" what is
> > > > best for them.  Forced education of forced ideas!  What could be
> > > > better than that?  It is what is good for all.
>
> > > Again where did this rant come from, what is it's porpuse and it's
> > > relevance to what we are talking about?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
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