On Aug 28, 3:28 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> But here is the crux. You claimed that such a system would
> be unethical, I asked how so, you replied because it would force
> people into give you 'free stuff'
>
> My request to you is simply this, proove to me that such a system
> would force people into giving you free stuff. You said it, you must
> belive it so show me why you belive it.
I tried to show it through examples of the "delivery" of anything.
Anything delivered has to be done by someone. "Deliver" includes
everything from design , cultivate, refine, produce, drive it by truck
or plane, distribute it, everything. Those same people who do that
deserve "delivery" of other things by your imaginary system.. I asked
who would do it and why. I have been given no explanaion of how this
would be achived but it "appears" to me that it would have to be
forced and not by choice in some manner or another.
There is no question of my
> needing to proove any thing to you, I made no claims whilst you
> certianly have.
>
> > > Yes it is a legal requirment here in the UK to ensure that your
> > > children are educated. I.E. If you let your child skip school you can
> > > be prosecuted.
>
> > Another lovely step taken in the "spirit" of the controlling state.
> > Are students jailed for failing to graduate? You might want to add
> > that step next. And I think you should just force feed socialism and
> > communism in the curriculum while you are at it, as it is obviously
> > "correct" isn't it? Of COURSE it is! So why teach anything else?
> > You need to control all those wrong thoughts. Don't even let those bad
> > thoughts start.
>
> Come on now, lets not start with the 'unreasonable' leaps of
> sillyness. Why would a legal requirment for parents to get their
> children educated end in arrest for students who fail to graduate?
My sarcasm just has no value in here it seems. I will be sad to see
it go if I can ever stop it from coming out. I am simply trying to
find limits of ideas. I hear an idea and stream it to the other side
to see what it looks like. Just a personal learning habit with me,
perhaps it is wrong or unproductive to look at things this way, but I
think an idea "without limits" has dangers. I am just exploring those
possible dangers.
I was trying to point out that your "fix" for the "problem of
education" was to force children to go to school. Well if the actual
underlying "point" of education is to "learn" and not simply to plop
someone down in front of a teacher, then you should "force" the
learning too, since you forced them showing up to school.
> Get ahold of your temper man, and think about what you are putting
> down in writting here.
That was not temper, just sarcasm. Another nasty trait I aquired
somewhere. I think it has value as an illustrative tool, but perhaps
this is not the "room" for it.
> > Deciding what is best for others is best! They don't "know" what is
> > best for them. Forced education of forced ideas! What could be
> > better than that? It is what is good for all.
>
> Again where did this rant come from, what is it's porpuse and it's
> relevance to what we are talking about?
Just because you cannot see something Lee, does not mean "it is not
there", clear as day to some, yet just as I read others and don't
"see", well tht is what we are trying to do, "see" the other points.
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