> > My request to you is simply this, proove to me that such a system > > would force people into giving you free stuff. You said it, you must > > belive it so show me why you belive it. > > I tried to show it through examples of the "delivery" of anything. > Anything delivered has to be done by someone. "Deliver" includes > everything from design , cultivate, refine, produce, drive it by truck > or plane, distribute it, everything. Those same people who do that > deserve "delivery" of other things by your imaginary system.. I asked > who would do it and why. I have been given no explanaion of how this > would be achived but it "appears" to me that it would have to be > forced and not by choice in some manner or another.
Ahhh so here the relevant words are: 'but it "appears" to me that it would have to be forced' So can I take this as an admission that this is an opinion of yours, an unsubstansiated one at that? Or put it another way, does this say that you fear that such things may be forced? > My sarcasm just has no value in here it seems. I will be sad to see > it go if I can ever stop it from coming out. I am simply trying to > find limits of ideas. I hear an idea and stream it to the other side > to see what it looks like. Just a personal learning habit with me, > perhaps it is wrong or unproductive to look at things this way, but I > think an idea "without limits" has dangers. I am just exploring those > possible dangers. I have about three things to say about this one BB. First my experiance of Internet forums tells me that when sombody makes a claim such as this, it is normaly a cop -out and things two and three will explain why. Secondly, every single time you choose to type a reply, the words do not simply just fly from your fingers in an unconciouse streem of letters, you have to think what you want to say and then type the words to make yourself understood, so I simply do not belive you when you tell us, '....if I can ever stop it coming out'. That makes me doubly sure of the cop out. Thirdly, yes sarcasm serves no point in a text based forum where the reading of body langue and the inflections of the voice cannot be used. > I was trying to point out that your "fix" for the "problem of > education" was to force children to go to school. Well if the actual > underlying "point" of education is to "learn" and not simply to plop > someone down in front of a teacher, then you should "force" the > learning too, since you forced them showing up to school. Nope sorry my friend I fear you misunderstood my intention there. We where discussing this being forced into things and how unfair you thought it was that goverement forces you into things. I asked then, in an alogory way, do you think that it is unethical that there exist laws to force parents into ensureing that there children get an education. Like you I was asking you a question to understand the limits of your understanding on tis issue of goveremntal force. > > > Deciding what is best for others is best! They don't "know" what is > > > best for them. Forced education of forced ideas! What could be > > > better than that? It is what is good for all. > > > Again where did this rant come from, what is it's porpuse and it's > > relevance to what we are talking about? > > Just because you cannot see something Lee, does not mean "it is not > there", clear as day to some, yet just as I read others and don't > "see", well tht is what we are trying to do, "see" the other points. Yes indeed I agree totaly with this, which is why if you re-read what I have read you'll notice one of these ? This is a question mark and denotes that I am asking you a question. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
