she walks in beauty like the night...

On Aug 29, 11:38 am, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
> What beauty contestants communicate to me is more non-verbal than
> verbal, I find. And some of them communicate quite well.
>
> On Aug 29, 5:51 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > And actually, since I think that self image has everything to do with
> > health and beauty, the beauty contestant may just be on to something
> > here...communication skills aside.
>
> > On Aug 29, 12:31 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > She must be very, very attractive.  And that's all I've got to say about
> > > that.
>
> > > dj
>
> > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:45 AM, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Molly - Here's another view on living forever - I just came across it.
> > > > Jim
> > > > ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
>
> > > > (On September 17, 1994, Alabama's Heather Whitestone was selected as
> > > > Miss America 1995.)
> > > > Question: If you could live forever, would you and why?
> > > > Answer: "I would not live forever, because we should not live forever,
> > > > because if we were supposed to live forever, then we would live
> > > > forever, but we cannot live forever, which is why I would not live
> > > > forever,"
> > > > --Miss Alabama in the 1994 Miss USA contest.
>
> > > > On Aug 10, 9:31 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >  yes, and you have to wonder what it would do to our perspective of
> > > > > past, present and future.  We may end up like Billy Pilgrim in a
> > > > > Vonnegut novel.
>
> > > > > On Aug 10, 12:03 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Molly - very good - excellent point. I think it would be a quantum
> > > > > > leap from frantically trying to do everything, achieve whatever,
> > > > > > before we died to focusing instead on the here and now. The passage 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > time would loose much or all of its importance, I suspect. Thanks 
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > pointing this out. Jim
>
> > > > > > On Aug 10, 8:41 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > A quantum leap into something better would in all probability take
> > > > > > > place if we ourselves were extending our lives ad infinitum by a
> > > > > > > change in viewpoint...a different perspective of time and space 
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > life in general.  Not sure that would come with aforeveryoung
> > > > > > > pill...
>
> > > > > > > On Aug 8, 4:35 pm, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Good question, Jim. Endless life extension without aging?
>
> > > > > > > > Assume the issues of bad social effects and distributive justice
> > > > > > > > raised in other responses were solved. Is endless continuation 
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > life
> > > > > > > > even then appealing?
>
> > > > > > > > What would be the purpose of, say, even 25% longer life? To know
> > > > more
> > > > > > > > great grandchildren? To climb another corporate ladder? Gain
> > > > another
> > > > > > > > PhD?
>
> > > > > > > > It seems to me whatever temporal good one seeks, all such goods 
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > finite. Consequently, continuation of this life in a healthy 30-
> > > > > > > > something body is more of the same, and would eventually become 
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > boring as h-ll.  Consider life beyond mere life extension: a
> > > > quantum
> > > > > > > > leap to something better!
>
> > > > > > > > On Aug 6, 1:01 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Many of the recent threads - evolution, non-medical healing, 
> > > > > > > > > are
> > > > we in
> > > > > > > > > control, Feynman's mysteries, etc. - seem to dance around on 
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > wavecrest of scientific discoveries. It strikes me that, given
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > major scientific advances in recent decades and the increasing
> > > > speed
> > > > > > > > > of scientific progress, in the foreseeable future - 100 years
> > > > maybe -
> > > > > > > > > humans may be able to elect tolivewithout aging. We might 
> > > > > > > > > well be
> > > > > > > > > able to maintain our bodies at age 30 or 40 or whatever as 
> > > > > > > > > long
> > > > as we
> > > > > > > > > like. In other words, we might be able to choose 
> > > > > > > > > toliveforever.
> > > > > > > > >      If we accept that as a possibility, I wonder what sort of
> > > > > > > > > philosophical issues it raises. How might our view of life and
> > > > death
> > > > > > > > > be changed, if at all? How would our economies adapt? Would
> > > > people
> > > > > > > > > still marry for life? Would it change communities? Would our
> > > > > > > > > objectives - happy life, great wealth, friendships, learning,
> > > > travel
> > > > > > > > > etc. - change, and if so how? And how would we settle such
> > > > issues?
> > > > > > > > >     Anyone care to pursue this thread?   Jim- Hide quoted 
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