Upon review Iam, I found that you asked me two questions: First, what
my background was, the answer to which you said you were impressed.
The second had to do with the Eastern Gate, which I freely admitted
ignorance about and offered a few guesses based upon god google. If
you were not impressed with either, it is fine with me.

I ask questions to learn. If you answered my question about paths,
yes, it appeared to be more non sequitur than a direct response to my
list request. Perhaps you are climbing again? ….difficult to tell.


On Aug 30, 1:44 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Orn I asked a simple question once in a private email.
> Do you remember your answer? I do.. I was not impressed.
>
> If you reach the pinnacle of enlightenment. You have but one choice Orn that
> is walk the path of life or jump of the pinnacle to climb again. or simply
> to live life.
>
> Some how that answer will not satisfy you. Well each person must follow
> their own path to enlightenment actually that is not hard. recognizing it is
> nor difficult, many people just simply miss it.
>
> What do you see as what leads away from enlightenment?
>
> Well the next question I think you missed it, I did share some of it. As for
> culture.. I am basically Caucasian.. what else do you want to know..
> Allan
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 5:04 PM, ornamentalmind 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
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> > Iam, I am quite pleased that you find spiritual truths to be common
> > knowledge. Also, depending upon one’s own knowledge, yes, some other
> > people can appear to be ‘wanting’ in the current context.
>
> > You suggest that some paths lead ‘away from the goal’. Would you mind
> > sharing some of these with us?
>
> > Also, you talk about the pinnacle of enlightenment and your culture…if
> > you have shared your view of this with us, alas, I have either missed
> > it or forgotten. Would you mind sharing a little exposition on this
> > too? Perhaps a new topic? Also, you might include some sort of
> > unpacking of this comment you made: “ Wheb you reach the pinnacle of
> > enlightenment. You are not to sit there and bask in past glory ,, but
> > you are to jump and begin the climb again.” -  Iam
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > On Aug 30, 2:13 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I am aware of those truth for many years and I do listen to and think
> > about
> > > the teachings of the Dalai Lama . I have learned over the years that
> > there
> > > are many paths that lead to the same goal, and there are some paths that
> > > lead away from that goal.
> > > The idea behind sharing spirituality is to use the stones of another's
> > path
> > > to polish your own. That doesn't mean jump and change paths. the four
> > great
> > > truths of suffering, I am sorry Orn  to me They are but common knowledge,
> > > though that does not diminish their value.
> > > I have read to many writing of what people call spiritual leaders, only
> > to
> > > find them wanting and impressed with little or nothing. The teaching they
> > > want to pass on would only leave me starving in the desert.
> > > I was born to and raised in a culture that |I find my spiritual
> > nourishment
> > > in.  Wheb you reach the pinnacle of enlightenment. You are not to sit
> > there
> > > and bask in past glory ,, but you are to jump and begin the climb again.
> > > That is my culture where I find for myself thriving in spiritual
> > > development.
> > > As i write tis I look down and read my coffee cup --- :
> > > Remember Yesterday, Dream about tomorrow, but Live Today
> > > Allan
>
> > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:53 AM, ornamentalmind <
> > [email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > “And what do you see as the four noble truths? “ – Allan
>
> > > > Uhhh, while I’m sure there ARE many different sets of 4 truths, the
> > > > best known is those from Buddhism. And, since I am not sure how deeply
> > > > you wish to address this, I will just post a link to HHDL’s overview
> > > > on them. Or, you could just read the 4 bolded headings…your choice.
>
> > > >http://www.lamayeshe.com/index.php?sect=article&id=380
>
> > > > On Aug 29, 1:01 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > And what do you see as the four noble truths?
> > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:45 PM, ornamentalmind <
> > > > [email protected]>wrote:
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> > > > > > " Orn which throne?" - Allan
>
> > > > > > While in this instance, the angels and throne can be taken as
> > > > > > metaphors, the throne most commonly associated is that of god.
> > > > > > If this doesn’t whip your cream, one can meditate on the 4 noble
> > > > > > truths!
>
> > > > > > On Aug 29, 1:54 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Orn which throne?
> > > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:46 AM, ornamentalmind
> > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
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