It maybe, in this world, we are left with the happiness of the prostituted Cheshire Cat's smile.
On 2 Sep, 02:25, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > Good topic. I already stated why I don't like "duty" and I can see > why there is a perceived conflict with happiness. This assumes that > happiness "must" conflict with society? I don't see that as a > necessity at all myself. > > On Sep 1, 4:23 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'm thinking that not recognizing this duty leaves one vulnerable to > > the dissatisfying results of false pursuits of happiness. Like Kant's > > example of a wealthy person who thinks there is happiness in wealth > > but then realizes it has no real value due to the anxiety in attaining > > and keeping it. > > This assumes that all rich people are unhappy, and I dispute that > "comparitively" as not universal, but sure, it happens, so what? > Lots of people change majors in college too. What you thought would > make you happy sometimes doesn't, oh well, so you try something > else. It also assumes the rich do whatever it is they do only for > money, I claim some just do what they do and it happens to make them > rich and there is no connection at all. > > > Kant indicates that all men regardless have an innate sense to find > > happiness, referred to as inclination. The dilemma being that much of > > the time one's happiness results in the unhappiness of someone else > > therefore concluding that everyone could not possibly be happy at the > > same time. Even in the Eudemonist sense there are no guarantees or > > there is a great reliability on the individual's ability to achieve > > happiness. > > Again, I don't think seeking happiness necessarily has any connection > to making others unhappy. I suppose we could use some examples. > > > I see a direct conflict between desires, happiness and morality > > because much of the pursuit of happiness creates an abandonment of > > morality and desire fails to promote happiness, perhaps temporarily or > > at least at the achievement level. > > I don't see that at all. If I stayed in my room all day to learn how > to play guitar to a level never seen before, then I join a band and > tour the world, how has my morality been compromised? I suppose I > need to hear your examples. > > > Aside from morality issues the end road for me is the question of the > > duty to assure happiness. Is there individual duty to assure > > happiness and if there is would each individual happiness lead to the > > ultimate happiness of society. I've always said, "If you want to be > > happy make the people around you happy". Make the world around you > > happy and you will be living in a happy world. > > I don't think it is a duty to be happy but it is a right to pursue it > if you don't infringe on others rights. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
