Perhaps it's not false consciousness at all but simply irrational
reasoning, discretion gone wild or living an indoctrinated lie.

On Sep 7, 10:56 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> I suppose most of our experience of the why continuum has been
> disappointment - largely because it's been about manufacturing consent
> along Orn's lines - the human sciences have certainly played their
> part in this.  There has been some focus on what gets 'hard-wired' in
> the brain, leading to the notion that religion is and that this
> togetherness is an evolutionary advantage.  I tend to like notions of
> extra-human consciousness because I would prefer something better to
> tune into.  I much prefer a world in which, told at the door of a New
> York restaurant in the 1960s that there was no admittance to women
> wearing trousers, Gillian Anscombe (a catholic philosopher with a
> clutch of kids) promptly removed hers, to a world of worthies who
> prosecute women for wearing them.
> 'Hard-wiring' is clearly something for biology to be looking at, but
> how has it come to Dawkin's black box to be ignored as irrational -
> itself an irrational, unexplored base for 'rational science'?
> Introspection has led me to know there is lots of hard-wiring in me I
> would rather do without, except in time-constrained moments of fight-
> flight and maybe some forms of enjoyment.  I am still hard-wired
> against being attracted to black women (no doubt a great relief to
> them) and inclined to be attracted to white and Asian women and not
> men of any shade.  I seem, these days, to have become hard-wired
> against advertising, cosmetics and commodity-fetishism - which are
> linked to disgust in me (such a link is proposed as a learning
> mechanism for hard-wiring).  There is much 'false-consciousness' I
> would like to sweep away in order to have better environmental effects
> on what I can be (though we don't want a bunch of PC Nazis in charge
> of this).  We could have a more virtuous circle of 'consciousness'.  I
> was brought up in a false consciousness of hating Germans and Japanese
> and considerable other racism.  I suspect it's Muslims these days.  If
> we end up not being able to define consciousness I guess we get this
> about right - there are possibilities and probabilities.  So how can I
> be so sure about false consciousness?
>
> On 7 Sep, 15:51, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 7 Sep, 15:12, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Tubulins are targets for anticancer drugs like Taxol and the "Vinca
> > > alkaloid" drugs such as vinblastine and vincristine. The anti-gout
> > > agent colchicine binds to tubulin and inhibits microtubule formation,
> > > arresting neutrophil motility and decreasing inflammation. The anti-
> > > fungal drug Griseofulvin targets mictotubule formation and has
> > > applications in cancer treatment.  Visions of myself and Pat in
> > > bathchairs at the convalescent home for mad techno-speculants needing
> > > to finalise string theory to cure our gout!  I should think I would
> > > concede my Kaliber Yawn theory that string theories are an illusion
> > > created by a lack of alcohol in such circumstances.
>
> >    LOL!!  Could well be.  The last time I had a pint of ale, I was
> > sick as a dog.  I just can't seem to tolerate alcohol anymore.  I
> > suppose God is preparing me for a long dry spell.  ;-)
>
> > > Arguments on life and consciousness seem to imply 'why' questions to
> > > me - perhaps necessitate them.  Memory sort of links to a world of
> > > logical necessity (a view from Leibniz).  I don't think this big - I'm
> > > more concerned we get on with better decision-making that is a
> > > contribution to an open society - without this we are cast into some
> > > kind of 'killing competition' even if we just leave it to evolution to
> > > wipe us out.
>
> >    As I said, the fact that we exist in a continuum implies that the
> > system is teleological.  Thus the need for our 'whys' to be answered.
> > I fear, though, that most of the answers will elude us while we're
> > incarnate.
>
> > > On 7 Sep, 11:01, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On 4 Sep, 22:02, sjewins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Also, as current as views like Simon’s are, “The product of the bio-
> > > > > > electric, electro-chemical energy in the brain. Like a burning 
> > > > > > candle
> > > > > > produces heat, the brain produces consciousness.”  - Simon
>
> > > > > > …saying that consciousness is bio-electrical and electro-chemical
> > > > > > energy, using an analogy as he did about a candle, is like saying 
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > consciousness is the product of those trillions of cells that 
> > > > > > Dennett
> > > > > > suggests is a ‘bag of tricks’!
>
> > > > > Well, it is by those methods that the brain functions. How else could
> > > > > consciousness arise if not from the functioning of the brain in the
> > > > > way that it functions?
>
> > > > > Do you think that consciousness arises from something disconnected
> > > > > from the brain? How would that work?
>
> > > >     The nervous system contains a substance, tubulin, which creates a
> > > > quantum-scale interface to consciousness, which is actually contained
> > > > in the Calabi-Yau space.  The brain forms the interface between that
> > > > consciousness-space and our space-time through our bodies.  This, of
> > > > course, is given a string-theory paradigm, which is not proven
> > > > experimentally but is the only theory on paper that fills in (or has
> > > > the capability of filling in) all the blank areas in quantum mechanics
> > > > and the Standard theory.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
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