Umm are you typing while stoned now Neil?
On 24 Sep, 15:00, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote:
> I do not exacly know what you are trying to tell us. But it gives me
> the feeling that you had a bad day and blow of steam by this story. It
> is just a feeling, wanna talk about it?
>
> Greetings,
> Matthijs
>
> On 24 sep, 11:23, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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> > Two colleagues once wondered what it might be like to write other than
> > as a functionary. The problem is related to Lee's pondering on music
> > rights and illegal downloading. The problem of not being a
> > functionary is that there is no 'money' in it. Even writing something
> > for Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy online (free to users) could
> > be regarded as 'money connected' - there would be certain 'credits'
> > for an academic career.
>
> > I find myself wondering how we might establish something free of our
> > early twenty-first century plight. I see some answers in future
> > memories, perhaps ones in which we write from the perspective of the
> > current plight having destroyed itself. I catch glimpses of a world
> > where much we now take seriously is so old hat it could only be part
> > of a ridiculous history (like Blackadder). One of these worlds has us
> > genuinely trying to leave Earth with the technology to do so. I
> > posted recently on what I believe the case for space-time travel is.
> > Essentially, the equations (sadly based on currently inadequate data
> > on exotic substances like 'dark energy') tell us that travelling at
> > acceleration acceptable to our bodies, we could reach the 'expansion
> > horizon' (edge of the universe) in what we would experience as 30
> > years in 'planet of the apes time'. We could not come back, in the
> > sense that all we left behind would be gone, except a bleak, dark
> > place - as 'here' would have experienced eons of 'time'.
>
> > In some sense, my questions are about the 'freedom' such a trip
> > involves. We get the freedom to roam space-time vastness, but
> > presumably need to arrive somewhere in which we can enjoy something
> > similar to Earth that has not undergone 'eon decay'. If possible,
> > great questions about what we are leaving behind arise, as well as
> > what we would be seeking to do. A myriad of 'Mayflowers' becomes a
> > possibility. No doubt some sect of 'believers' might well stay behind
> > for the 'second coming' at the time of the heat death of the sun.
>
> > Much that we value, like family, friendship, neighbourliness and so is
> > challenged in this experiment, as well as much of the moral circling
> > we do. In my science fiction, I'm concerned with what such a future
> > does to philosophy (I take this from Popper). What would a woman in
> > such times regard childbirth as? What would we consider 'natural'.
> > In another post, Chris and I are wandering back from Europa, already
> > substantially changed by genetic splicing (he, in fact, is a 'built
> > man' not born of woman - so no change there mate as I plagiarise
> > MacBeth!), unaware in early chapters a new lifeform has entered
> > symbiosis with us from Europa's underground ocean). We made the
> > mistake of running out of whiskey and cactus juice and drank the
> > water. Earth is recovering from war and asteroid catastrophe and
> > survivors are focusing on relativity travel (there are new worlds out
> > there to royally screw-up!). Would 'morality' at such a time be to
> > sabotage the space-time travel to save the universe from humanity?
>
> > I've been on the fringes of a few physics symposia ('pose' being the
> > key term) at which such stuff is trolled out over too much beer and
> > too little female company (sort of Mind's Eye plus beer?). My own
> > science isn't good enough to know who is talking rot or not really.
> > What I'm on about, should anyone have survived this far, is changing
> > the 'black boxes' of philosophy to see if we can open up free space.
> > One could imagine in the novel, that when Chris attacks me with a
> > knife, he understands I had always really accepted his view of gun-
> > control as he looks down the barrel of the cocked .38 Magnum I've just
> > raised from under the table. Or one could wonder, accepting that the
> > science works, just how daft our current values are, being little more
> > than the good intentions that lined the path to Hell (two more world
> > wars precede the time of the novel). My plan is a genre of
> > deconstruction-reconstruction (of mice and men). Those in the know
> > may suspect I am somewhat shackled by 'strategic scenario building'
> > here, but I hope there is no return of managerial desire and I'm more
> > concerned with the impact on knowledge of where is knows it 'has' to
> > go, and that we can cut through that straitjacket. Relativity travel
> > can remain a fantasy and still provide some direction on how we might
> > better await future generations pass into entropy. Those who think
> > religion has no part to play might reflect that such a future moment
> > might well be the triumph of the Cathars (the return to nothingness
> > and final defeat of the material devil).- Hide quoted text -
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