Raw thought like all ideas are best received when the writing is clear and 
distinct rather than the tendency among some writers 

to believe that sounding obscure is equated with brilliance. 


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From: Slip Disc <[email protected]>
To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Sep 24, 2009 10:32 am
Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: thinking of free philosophy





Seems clear to me, the swaying of writing content for fiscal
advantage.  How much of the need to generate funds influences the way
we write.  Discard the functionary, the need, the peer appeasement and
what is left is the freedom to wholly express raw thought, thought
without the sieve of processing and without having a reason.   That is
the plight, the eddy of constants in academia elevation, achievements
even by way of public recognition.  Perhaps the earliest of writers
experienced what it is you are presenting, pure thought without a
designed end.  Still there does seem to be a necessity beyond the
singular, the other ears to hear, to understand.  What is a great
oration in solitude but the expansion of self to self.  There must be
others to receive, lest the end of the universe be an openness for
simple primal screaming.

On Sep 24, 4:23?am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Two colleagues once wondered what it might be like to write other than
> as a functionary. ?The problem is related to Lee's pondering on music
> rights and illegal downloading. ?The problem of not being a
> functionary is that there is no 'money' in it. ?Even writing something
> for Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy online (free to users) could
> be regarded as 'money connected' - there would be certain 'credits'
> for an academic career.
>
> I find myself wondering how we might establish something free of our
> early twenty-first century plight. ?I see some answers in future
> memories, perhaps ones in which we write from the perspective of the
> current plight having destroyed itself. ?I catch glimpses of a world
> where much we now take seriously is so old hat it could only be part
> of a ridiculous history (like Blackadder). ?One of these worlds has us
> genuinely trying to leave Earth with the technology to do so. ?I
> posted recently on what I believe the case for space-time travel is.
> Essentially, the equations (sadly based on currently inadequate data
> on exotic substances like 'dark energy') tell us that travell
ing at
> acceleration acceptable to our bodies, we could reach the 'expansion
> horizon' (edge of the universe) in what we would experience as 30
> years in 'planet of the apes time'. ?We could not come back, in the
> sense that all we left behind would be gone, except a bleak, dark
> place - as 'here' would have experienced eons of 'time'.
>
> In some sense, my questions are about the 'freedom' such a trip
> involves. ?We get the freedom to roam space-time vastness, but
> presumably need to arrive somewhere in which we can enjoy something
> similar to Earth that has not undergone 'eon decay'. ?If possible,
> great questions about what we are leaving behind arise, as well as
> what we would be seeking to do. ?A myriad of 'Mayflowers' becomes a
> possibility. ?No doubt some sect of 'believers' might well stay behind
> for the 'second coming' at the time of the heat death of the sun.
>
> Much that we value, like family, friendship, neighbourliness and so is
> challenged in this experiment, as well as much of the moral circling
> we do. ?In my science fiction, I'm concerned with what such a future
> does to philosophy (I take this from Popper). ?What would a woman in
> such times regard childbirth as? ?What would we consider 'natural'.
> In another post, Chris and I are wandering back from Europa, already
> substantially changed by genetic splicing (he, in fact, is a 'built
> man' not born of woman - so no change there mate as I plagiarise
> MacBeth!), unaware in early chapters a new lifeform has entered
> symbiosis with us from Europa's underground ocean). ?We made the
> mistake of running out of whiskey and cactus juice and drank the
> water. ?Earth is recovering from war and asteroid catastrophe and
> survivors are focusing on relativity travel (there are new worlds out
> there to royally screw-up!). Would 'morality' at such a time be to
> sabotage the space-time travel to save the universe from humanity?
>
> I've been on the fringes of a few physics symposia ('pose' being the
> key term) at which such stuff is 
trolled out over too much beer and
> too little female company (sort of Mind's Eye plus beer?). ?My own
> science isn't good enough to know who is talking rot or not really.
> What I'm on about, should anyone have survived this far, is changing
> the 'black boxes' of philosophy to see if we can open up free space.
> One could imagine in the novel, that when Chris attacks me with a
> knife, he understands I had always really accepted his view of gun-
> control as he looks down the barrel of the cocked .38 Magnum I've just
> raised from under the table. ?Or one could wonder, accepting that the
> science works, just how daft our current values are, being little more
> than the good intentions that lined the path to Hell (two more world
> wars precede the time of the novel). ?My plan is a genre of
> deconstruction-reconstruction (of mice and men). ?Those in the know
> may suspect I am somewhat shackled by 'strategic scenario building'
> here, but I hope there is no return of managerial desire and I'm more
> concerned with the impact on knowledge of where is knows it 'has' to
> go, and that we can cut through that straitjacket. ?Relativity travel
> can remain a fantasy and still provide some direction on how we might
> better await future generations pass into entropy. ?Those who think
> religion has no part to play might reflect that such a future moment
> might well be the triumph of the Cathars (the return to nothingness
> and final defeat of the material devil).


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