Kipling one wrote "If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you but make allowances for their doubting too" SD in my life I have been in many extreme environments, In the presence of that moment it was real to me and that is how I view it. In one of these moments I meet "God" so right or wrong it is real to me.. no you will not convince me differently.
As for purgatory I can not help but wonder if it was a concept to allow condemning with out condemning, as for hell it is generally taken as a place of eternal suffering and pain. As for talking to myself, not really don't have that much to say. Allan On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > Couldn't possibly comment on your experience but could only wonder how > you arrived at the conclusion that it was in fact a creator, the > creator or anything responsible for the creation of all things. > Obviously you are convinced of it and therefore there is not much left > to discuss but then again you leave a crack in the window by stating > even if you are totally wrong, a possibility or error. So which is > it? Are you totally convinced or are you really not sure about it? > Intense solitude in any environment can lead one's mind to strange > imaginations, conjuring beyond consciousness. You end of course with > another myth, that being hell, a place of human concept, care to toss > in heaven as well? How about purgatory? Spend much time talking to > yourself? > > On Sep 27, 7:49 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > SD for me personally there is no implication as I have experienced the > > creator.. a very personal thing,, and I expect no one to believe because > of > > what I have experienced. > > To me access a dynamic connection ,, well it really is an on going > process > > and there is nothing wrong with striving toward our highest spiritual > > potential. SD even if I am totally wrong and there is nothing at all I > have > > lost nothing at all ,, even then I have experienced great joy within my > > present, that alone is of great value to me. > > Having sailed alone for many years on a small boat I have some what > > experienced solitude in it intensity ,, I can not imagine anything > worse > > than solitude without the hope and presence of the creator ( God ). I can > > imagine nothing more horrifying than having no connection with the > creator > > at all. A solitude of emptiness... a hell beyond all concepts of hell. > > Allan > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > But Molly's post is so vague and implies a creator. Access the > > > dynamic connection with creation. We don't even know if there really > > > is a creation which implies a creator. Highest potentiality doesn't > > > really define anything, it's just a phrase as is 'greater > > > posibility'. What exactly are you getting from it? Obviously if you > > > have to examine it for weeks there really isn't much said. > > > > > On Sep 27, 10:05 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I like that thought well worth spending time in contemplation, > actually > > > > probably drive me nuts examining it for weeks, thank you > > > > Allan > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I think we are looking for god, and we do this to access the > dynamic > > > > > connection with creation that allows our highest potentiality and > > > > > greater possibility. > > > > > > > On Sep 27, 3:16 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I totally agree with you SD, Peoples concepts of their beliefs > are > > > > > lacking > > > > > > it seems often times are revealed in the words they pray it seems > as > > > if > > > > > they > > > > > >hat thought I will have to tuck it away among my notes are the > boss > > > and > > > > > God's sole purpose is to serve them.. > > > > > > It leaves me wondering just what is God looking for in man and > why? > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Exactly the question and implication. Many people in good > fortune > > > > > > > attribute it to God and declare, "God has blessed us" but later > on > > > in > > > > > > > life there is tragedy and horror, ergo, the blessing and the > curse. > > > > > > > The idea of a loving God is, imo, absurd. It's makes as much > sense > > > as > > > > > > > the purpose of dog or cock fights, the pitting of animals for > > > > > > > entertainment. > > > > > > > > > On Sep 26, 2:33 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > ;o) interesting bless in the morning; curse in the afternoon > > > > > > > > > > SD I am not God so trying to understand in terms I can > grasp.. > > > If I > > > > > > > bless > > > > > > > > something in the morning ,... why would I want to curse it in > the > > > > > > > afternoon? > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > God blesses in the morning and curses in the afternoon. > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 25, 5:52 pm, Chris Jenkins < > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/graham_oppy/god.html > > > > > > > > > > This article touches on a few points we've discussed > > > recently. > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ( > > > > > > ) > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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