On 29 Sep, 15:21, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> We each can derive whatever we can from any and all the passages but
> in the context of it all being the word of an omni-all being is simply
> imaginary.
>
> I reiterate in portion from post 6:
> Why would a "Almighty God", a all powerful "Creator", of the Universe
> and all life have to communicate through ignorant human beings, in the
> form of 66 books combined into one, become a human to be tortured and
> killed for the sake of humanity.........?
>
> So you see how it was man that came up with these concepts of creation
> and divinity.
>
> Would the inventor of cell phone technology use Morse code to
> communicate a message? When the telephone was invented did they tell
> people to use homing pigeons?
> Why would I want to waste a minute of my time paying serious attention
> to the concepts of an archaic culture void of any scientific
> knowledge?
>
> Take this biblical passage for example:
> "Then Moses stretched forth his rod toward heaven; and The Lord sent
> thunder and hail, and fire ran down to the earth. And The Lord rained
> hail upon the land of Egypt; there was hail, and fire flashing
> continually in the midst of the hail, very heavy hail, such as had
> never been in all the land of Egypt since it became a nation. The hail
> struck down everything that was in the "field" throughout all the land
> of Egypt, both man and beast; and the hail struck down every plant of
> the field, and shattered every tree of the field. Only in The Land Of
> Goshen, where the people of Israel were, there was no hail." (Exodus
> 9:23-26)
>
> Considering that is was not just a story but an actual event.....
> Obviously there was a 'isolated' storm, the lightning struck the
> "field" and sparked a fire while the hail pummeled the earth amidst
> the lightning a thunder. You can imagine what a superstitious culture
> would have thought about all that, 'such as had never been in all the
> land of Egypt...', it must be God's wrath.
>
> Run for your lives, God's pissed off! Silly stuff mon, just silly!
>
Yet, all natural events are divine. So they weren't ALL that
silly.
> On Sep 29, 8:39 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Very interesting, Slip. This is the passage of the bible I have been
> > contemplating for several weeks. The meaning wasn't clear to me until
> > I read a translation of the bible that had Abraham naming the mountain
> > where he took Isaac to sacrifice "The Lord Provides." I don't think
> > this is really a passage about killing our children, although there
> > are plenty of opinions in that vein to be found. I think it is the
> > passage that explains to us the process of the manifestation of our
> > experience, and the necessity to let go of our own goals or creations,
> > and sacrifice our suffering (the ram in the thorns) so that it is out
> > of the way and the our highest potential can become manifest. I find
> > hope in this passage, and instruction.
>
> > On Sep 29, 8:18 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Yes of course, communicate with God alone, happened the other day,
> > > then he told me to kill my son, said like Abraham, said not to worry
> > > that he wont die, I said 'wont that be attempted murder'? God said
> > > "yes, but don't worry, I'm God and I'll have you out in 5-10 with good
> > > behavior and if you read my book that will be easy!"
>
> > > On Sep 29, 6:31 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On 28 Sep, 17:39, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Emotions can be expressed in isolation.
>
> > > > Absolutely. In that way, we communicate our feelings to God alone.
> > > > Not that God doesn't receive the messages when we are NOT alone, but
> > > > He is the only receiver when we ARE alone.
>
> > > > > On Sep 28, 11:05 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 27 Sep, 17:13, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > What role does emotion play in our everyday lives? How does
> > > > > > > emotion
> > > > > > > affect our experience and being? These are questions addressed by
> > > > > > > some of the finest minds of our era.
>
> > > > > > > For Piaget, emotion is the motivating force of action emanating
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > outside the individual in the form of sensations emitted by
> > > > > > > objects.
> > > > > > > His view is rooted in the Newtonian conception of a universe
> > > > > > > comprised
> > > > > > > in isolated objects requiring an emotive force to initiate a
> > > > > > > series of
> > > > > > > mechanistic interactions between objects. Piaget reduces all
> > > > > > > conscious human experience to a cognitive formulation of these
> > > > > > > causal
> > > > > > > relations. His abstract concept of emotion as force fails to
> > > > > > > explain the relationship between bodily feelings, emotions, and
> > > > > > > higher
> > > > > > > forms of consciousness in human beings.
>
> > > > > > > Alfred North Whitehead indicates the factors in human nature
> > > > > > > which go
> > > > > > > to make up the particular emotions, arise from our apprehension of
> > > > > > > these permanent features of order in the world. His concrete
> > > > > > > concept
> > > > > > > of emotion gives insight into the experience of bodily feelings
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > their relationship to the growth and learning of human beings. He
> > > > > > > explains the emotions are the crucial mediating factors between
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > welter of awareness of these feelings in higher organisms. “We
> > > > > > > perceive other things which are in the world of actualities in the
> > > > > > > same sense as we are. So our emotions are directed toward other
> > > > > > > things, including of course, our bodily organs . . . the world
> > > > > > > for me
> > > > > > > is nothing else than how the functioning of my body present it
> > > > > > > for my
> > > > > > > experience.”
>
> > > > > > > Jean Paul Sartre sees it differently in his book, The Emotions,
> > > > > > > Outline of a Theory. He sees our emotion as an “abrupt drop of
> > > > > > > consciousness into the magical.” He believes: “emotion is not
> > > > > > > accidental modification of a subject which would otherwise be
> > > > > > > plunged
> > > > > > > into an unchanged world. It is easy to see that every emotional
> > > > > > > apprehension of an object which frightens, irritates, sadness,
> > > > > > > etc.,
> > > > > > > can be made only on the basis of a total alteration of the world.
> > > > > > > In
> > > > > > > order that an object may in reality appear terrible, it must
> > > > > > > realize
> > > > > > > itself as an immediate and magical presence face to face with
> > > > > > > consciousness.“ In other words, we modify our experience with
> > > > > > > emotion
> > > > > > > to make it more comfortable, according to our own nature. We
> > > > > > > emote
> > > > > > > sadness, anger or gloom because “lacking the power and will to
> > > > > > > accomplish the acts which we have been planning, we behave in
> > > > > > > such a
> > > > > > > way that the universe no longer requires anything of us.”
>
> > > > > > > What do YOU think?
>
> > > > > > As for me, I see emotions as the outward expression of inner
> > > > > > feelings. They are the way we communicate our inner feelings to
> > > > > > those
> > > > > > around us. So, emotions are a form of communication of data (our
> > > > > > inner feelings) to those who cannot (and, perhaps, could not)
> > > > > > perceive
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