Swept along... Tchaikovsky: "Oh, how difficult it is to make anyone see and feel in music what we see and feel ourselves." 1878 (He endured a ten year depression and a ruinous marriage but finally broke through and regained his creative power.)// Re: mother's milk- I do believe the bond of trust and initial introduction to feelings emerge from infancy and early childhood and this is dictated by culture and the emotional health of the mother, i.e. whether she can convey trust and love. If not, it will be a struggle for the child/adult.
On Sep 28, 4:10 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry Lon - 'conditions for existence' is Kantian jive - generally > stuff emerges in relation to other stuff. I used to get great > pleasure from music, mostly classical, but have lost this since I was > badly hurt years ago - I assume the music hasn't changed, but my > emotional reactions to it have. If there was more honesty we might > all be more hospitable and so on. > > On 28 Sep, 20:39, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I agree, our feelings based reactions aren't really conductive to > > anything besides the concerns more immediate and visceral. But > > sometimes I wonder if our overactive brains haven't managed to make > > things too complicated. > > > I'm not sure I read a 'conditions for existence' discussion, but it > > does seem that the difference between us and 'animals' are in shades > > of grey. > > > On Sep 28, 2:00 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It seems to me we can play physical games and mental games involving > > > negative feedback in terms of resistance to and amplification of what > > > we will feel. Emotion as a source of anything like love, justice, > > > decency seems a non-starter. One might, once again, wonder about > > > 'conditions for existence' - and some of these conditions are shared > > > by animals. > > > > On 28 Sep, 19:09, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Does emotion really need to be that metaphysical? > > > > > We are physical creatures, and our emotions and feelings are part of > > > > our physical interface to the world. A cat's fur stands on end to > > > > make the animal look larger upon encountering a dog. A stag's body > > > > fills with adrenaline with the thrill of combat. I don't think these > > > > emotions are any different than ours. > > > > > Our main problem our feelings and the physical reactions that go with > > > > are still linked baser, more animal reactions, and they may be > > > > obsolete for the situation in our complex world. This is a problem > > > > because our feelings and emotions are much closer to our animal mind, > > > > which usually gets a drop on our more rational thought processes. > > > > > The neat thing about ourselves is that our minds create an internal > > > > world to percieve. This leads us to having physical reactions to non > > > > physical situations. This is the primary reason for the existance of > > > > our minds, to be able to predict or engineer pain and joy. Strangely > > > > enough, it is by invoking those feelings on a smaller scale.- Hide > > > > quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
