....of course, to just 'look good' is of paramount importance to many.
On Oct 6, 2:49 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, Obama's war is winding down. I wish he had the guts to cut bait
> or fish but it seems the strategy is to remain there putting our
> soldiers lives at risk fighting a half-ass war with one arm tied
> around our back. The unfortunate leaks have only exacerbated the
> problem. Gen. McChrystal may very well have sacrificed his career
> going public with this disaster but I understand why he did it. I
> wish he'd just quit; talking sets a bad precedent. We don't need our
> military bickering with our elected officials. Mr. President, in
> Afghanistan it is time to shit or get off the pot. All this
> indecision is making us look weaker and weaker.
>
> dj
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:07 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > the louder the erudite tunes from the latest best and
> > brightest -- whistling past graveyards, to be filled by people far
> > away. Orn.
>
> > That's about it I'm afraid. The only way any of this might make sense
> > is through dreadful assumptions about someone's human nature. A
> > brilliant turn of phrase Orn.
>
> > On 6 Oct, 09:48, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I hesitate to repeat my views again about such things Neil. So, here
> >> are some words from someone else.
> >> Orn.
> >> ===========
> >> Starting Another Year of War in Afghanistan
>
> >> October, 02 2009By Solomon, Norman
>
> >> October 2009 has begun with the New York Times reporting that "the
> >> president, vice president and an array of cabinet secretaries,
> >> intelligence chiefs, generals, diplomats and advisers gathered in a
> >> windowless basement room of the White House for three hours on
> >> Wednesday to chart a new course in Afghanistan."
>
> >> As this month begins the ninth year of the U.S. war effort in
> >> Afghanistan, "windowless" seems to be an apt metaphor. The structure
> >> of thought and the range of options being debated in Washington's high
> >> places are notably insular. The "new course" will be a permutation of
> >> the present course.
>
> >> While certainty is lacking, steely resolve is evident. An unspoken
> >> mantra remains in effect: When in doubt, keep killing. The knotty
> >> question is: Exactly who and how?
>
> >> News accounts are filled with stories about options that mix
> >> "counterinsurgency" with "counterterrorism." The thicker the jargon in
> >> Washington, the louder the erudite tunes from the latest best and
> >> brightest -- whistling past graveyards, to be filled by people far
> >> away.
>
> >> In the White House, there's no indication of a pane that's facing the
> >> pain in Afghanistan, one of the poorest countries in the world, where
> >> the U.S. government continues to bring gifts: a dollar's worth of
> >> warfare for a dime's worth of everything else…
>
> >> For the rest of the story,
> >> see:http://www.zcommunications.org/zspace/commentaries/4000
>
> >> Again, one small vignette about a few people, humanity and the lack
> >> thereof as well as what feeds insurgency. The USSR had it right…
> >> retreat.
>
> >> On Oct 6, 12:44 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > "Truth..."http://video.google.com/videosearch?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1ACGWCENUS3...
>
> >> > All clear now? ;-)
>
> >> > On Oct 5, 5:29 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > Perhaps the recession is a depression after all. It seems Chris was
> >> > > approached to lend his ear in traditional manner so we could have a
> >> > > basis for a just war (the second war of another Jenkins' Ear) and
> >> > > refused on the moral grounds that he was not offered enough money and
> >> > > exclusion from the draft. In place of this, the powers that be are
> >> > > ramping up Afghanistan, where we can fight a just war on behalf of the
> >> > > new tradition of protecting unfairly elected governments and a
> >> > > necessary search for WDM there (weak, democratic malcontents). In
> >> > > once smoke filled rooms, our foreign policy analysts and
> >> > > econometricians have decided we need a war, any old war, to recover
> >> > > from the recession. The first stage will be a draft of 50,000 new
> >> > > troops to protect a run off election between Khazi and Abdullah
> >> > > Abdullah (votes for him will only count half). In my view, these
> >> > > battalions should consist only of unarmed bwankers parachuted in at
> >> > > random and led by Rumsfeld espousing that a sensible strategy must
> >> > > make no sense at all to the enemy and that all must remain silent on
> >> > > it on pain of death. There is no shortage of recruits to kick him out
> >> > > of the plane first to further protect the strategy.
>
> >> > > Any more sensible suggestions on what we are doing in this country?-
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