Dolphins appear to be able to commit suicide by deciding to not
breathe. If not seen, look for the movie 'The Cove'.

On Oct 8, 2:40 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> The will to live is strong.  Just try to stop breathing and feel it.
>
> On Oct 8, 6:28 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I think most of what we do is against our will.  A student blurted
> > this out to me a few months ago 'Why is it so fucking hard to do the
> > things you want to?'  She was crying and feeling rejected by the
> > world.  I think she's quite artie and talented, lucky to be pretty,
> > good with people - but I also know that whilst I have managed to do
> > the right thing from time to time I often feel the same way (for an
> > ugly scientist).  Doing what is necessary to live comes hard enough in
> > many situations and there seems little opportunity to work at what one
> > wants.  All the years of delayed gratification can seem to amount to
> > less than a hill of beans.  Even to succeed in dropping out in comfort
> > one has to give up on trying to do anything about a better world other
> > from whatever you don't exclude and are ripping-off in order to have
> > resources.
>
> > On 8 Oct, 04:42, Doris Ragland <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > very good...I could of looked that up I have a dictonary also...but one
> > > thing I did'nt find in my is the coment hooker...Since you mind goes
> > > there..where is your mind ????????? Don't answer that....God Bless
>
> > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:49 PM, frantheman 
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > Well, Doris, I'm inclined to think that we have different words to
> > > > designate different meanings, unless they are synonymous, which is not
> > > > so in the case of "weak" and "meek". The following two definitions are
> > > > from Webster [1913] and clearly refer to two very different states:
>
> > > > Meek \Meek\ (m[=e]k), a. [Compar. Meeker (m[=e]k"[~e]r);
> > > >   superl. Meekest.] [OE. mek, meoc; akin to Icel. mj[=u]kr
> > > >   mild, soft, Sw. mjuk, Dan. myg, D. muik, Goth. mukam[=o]dei
> > > >   gentleness.]
> > > >   1. Mild of temper; not easily provoked or orritated; patient
> > > >      under injuries; not vain, or haughty, or resentful;
> > > >      forbearing; submissive.
> > > >      [1913 Webster]
>
> > > >            Now the man Moses was very meek.      --Num. xii. 3.
> > > >      [1913 Webster]
>
> > > >   2. Evincing mildness of temper, or patience; characterized by
> > > >      mildness or patience; as, a meek answer; a meek face. "Her
> > > >      meek prayer." --Chaucer.
> > > >      [1913 Webster]
>
> > > >   Syn: Gentle; mild; soft; yielding; pacific; unassuming;
> > > >        humble. See Gentle.
> > > >        [1913 Webster] Meek
> > > >http://freedictionary.org/?Query=meek&button=Search
>
> > > > Weak \Weak\ (w[=e]k), a. [Compar. Weaker (w[=e]k"[~e]r);
> > > >   superl. Weakest.] [OE. weik, Icel. veikr; akin to Sw. vek,
> > > >   Dan. veg soft, flexible, pliant, AS. w[=a]c weak, soft,
> > > >   pliant, D. week, G. weich, OHG. weih; all from the verb seen
> > > >   in Icel. v[imac]kja to turn, veer, recede, AS. w[imac]can to
> > > >   yield, give way, G. weichen, OHG. w[imac]hhan, akin to Skr.
> > > >   vij, and probably to E. week, L. vicis a change, turn, Gr.
> > > >   e'i`kein to yield, give way. [root]132. Cf. Week, Wink,
> > > >   v. i. Vicissitude.]
> > > > Not possessing or manifesting intellectual, logical,
> > > >      moral, or political strength, vigor, etc. Specifically:
> > > >      [1913 Webster]
> > > >      (a) Feeble of mind; wanting discernment; lacking vigor;
> > > >          spiritless; as, a weak king or magistrate.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
>
> > > >                To think every thing disputable is a proof of a
> > > >                weak mind and captious temper.    --Beattie.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
>
> > > >                Origen was never weak enough to imagine that
> > > >                there were two Gods.              --Waterland.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
> > > >      (b) Resulting from, or indicating, lack of judgment,
> > > >          discernment, or firmness; unwise; hence, foolish.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
>
> > > >                If evil thence ensue,
> > > >                She first his weak indulgence will accuse.
> > > >                                                  --Milton.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
> > > >      (c) Not having full confidence or conviction; not decided
> > > >          or confirmed; vacillating; wavering.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
>
> > > >                Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but
> > > >                not to doubtful disputations.     --Rom. xiv. 1.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
> > > >      (d) Not able to withstand temptation, urgency, persuasion,
> > > >          etc.; easily impressed, moved, or overcome;
> > > >          accessible; vulnerable; as, weak resolutions; weak
> > > >          virtue.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
>
> > > >                Guard thy heart
> > > >                On this weak side, where most our nature fails.
> > > >                                                  --Addison.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
> > > >      (e) Wanting in power to influence or bind; as, weak ties;
> > > >          a weak sense of honor of duty.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
> > > >      (f) Not having power to convince; not supported by force
> > > >          of reason or truth; unsustained; as, a weak argument
> > > >          or case. "Convinced of his weak arguing." --Milton.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
>
> > > >                A case so weak . . . hath much persisted in.
> > > >                                                  --Hooker.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
> > > >      (g) Wanting in point or vigor of expression; as, a weak
> > > >          sentence; a weak style.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
> > > >      (h) Not prevalent or effective, or not felt to be
> > > >          prevalent; not potent; feeble. "Weak prayers." --Shak.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
> > > >      (i) Lacking in elements of political strength; not
> > > >          wielding or having authority or energy; deficient in
> > > >          the resources that are essential to a ruler or nation;
> > > >          as, a weak monarch; a weak government or state.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
>
> > > >                I must make fair weather yet awhile,
> > > >                Till Henry be more weak, and I more strong.
> > > >                                                  --Shak.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
> > > >      (k) (Stock Exchange) Tending towards lower prices; as, a
> > > >          weak market.
> > > >          [1913 Webster]
> > > >http://freedictionary.org/?Query=weak&button=Search
>
> > > > On 7 Okt., 21:20, Doris Ragland <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > weak-as someone being meek
>
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:07 AM, frantheman 
> > > > > <[email protected]
> > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > I have trouble understanding what is meant by the term "weak
> > > > > > character." In my experience, it is usually used as a (derogatory)
> > > > > > judgement by one person with respect to another.
>
> > > > > > Francis
>
> > > > > > On 7 Okt., 14:07, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > I think therapy and related band-aids are a way to justify our 
> > > > > > > weak-
> > > > > > > wills. Whether blaming our childhood or Original Sin, it's easier 
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > construct a drama than admit we were stupid or had a weak
> > > > character.//
> > > > > > > Definitely think most men are stronger than women in muscle 
> > > > > > > strength
> > > > > > > (pickle jar test) but God had a sense of humor and divided their
> > > > > > > brains for most of their lives allowing women to develop wiles and
> > > > the
> > > > > > > arts of calculation. :-)
>
> > > > > > > On Oct 6, 2:59 pm, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > (It's called therapy)
>
> > > > > > > > On 6 okt, 16:51, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Is it possible to force somebody to an action against their
> > > > will?-
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