DJ, You must be referring to Orn, he states above "As to Rand, I find her to be anathema." (Nov 20, 11:20)
The word "demaslave" is written by H L Menchan and is in the paragraph I provided above. The art of politics, under democracy, is simply the art of ringing it. Two branches reveal themselves. There is the art of the demagogue, and there is the art of what may be called, by a shot-gun marriage of Latin and Greek, the demaslave. They are complementary, and both of them are degrading to their practitioners. The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots. The demaslave is one who listens to what these idiots have to say and then pretends that he believes it himself. -- H.L. Mencken On Nov 22, 1:46 pm, dj Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: > You find Rand disgusting?. some of the words you mention is a little of an a > puzzel---demaslave --skin...? Some of these things I saw under Rand I did > not really care for > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't find anyone to be anathema, I find the word harsh, especially > > based on opinionated views that don't coincide with yours. Sometimes > > enlightenment can lead one into darkness, like the far right. > > Impartiality is hand in hand with being open minded. > > > The art of politics, under democracy, is simply the art > > of ringing it. Two branches reveal themselves. There > > is the art of the demagogue, and there is the art of what > > may be called, by a shot-gun marriage of Latin and Greek, > > the demaslave. They are complementary, and both of them > > are degrading to their practitioners. The demagogue is one > > who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he > > knows to be idiots. The demaslave is one who listens to > > what these idiots have to say and then pretends that he > > believes it himself. -- H.L. Mencken > > > On Nov 20, 11:20 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > As to Rand, I find her to be anathema. > > > > Truth is of value. Truth and reason are only one aspect of humanity > > > and thus any system based on a partial view of our ‘being’ will not > > > address the other aspects. > > > > Two kinds of democracy: > > > >http://www.encyclopedia.com/video/f9OP2YXKIFs-noam-chomsky-two-kinds-... > > > > ---- > > > > “Do not be alarmed, I have no dynamite in my pocket…Education is the > > > only bomb sanctioned by true anarchism, which stands for freedom in > > > the truest and highest sense.” – Emma Goldman > > > > On Nov 20, 4:56 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Truth be that it is and has been, but it doesn't seem to correlate > > > > with democracy and therefore we the people as has been demonstrated, > > > > have been duped and cajoled into what is basically a falsehood. > > > > Randian and Randism are terms that Ayn Rand detests and I can see that > > > > you could have just set it as Ayn Rand socioeconomics. The rest is > > > > based upon socialist and communist presumptions of a lack of inner > > > > light, and I agree, but they are not without validity if founded upon > > > > pure truth politics. Let's face it, no system works without truth > > > > within its tenets, which coincides with Rands tenet of Reason leading > > > > the way. The system of government within which we live in today does > > > > not reflect that of the government of reason that the founding fathers > > > > envisioned. Everyone loves to chew on Rand but you have to admit that > > > > some of it has value, even if it lies in the value of alternate > > > > aspect. > > > > > On Nov 20, 3:43 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > The US has always been mostly an oligarchy with some fascist > > > > > tendencies. There has always been an extreme divide between the > > > > > socioeconomic classes with a short lessoning of this for a few > > decades > > > > > last century. However during that era, the tax structure was the most > > > > > progressive and the US reached its zenith economically during the > > same > > > > > time period. Those who embrace Ayn Randian socioeconomic theories > > like > > > > > the neo-cons at once expand the economic divide and exacerbate human > > > > > suffering with a lack of empathy and compassion, similar to pure > > > > > capitalism. Even when socialism and communism are founded on a lack > > of > > > > > inner light and wisdom does a similar chaos and arising of non- > > > > > idealism result. The problem is not ‘out there’. We all have met the > > > > > enemy and it is us. > > > > > > __ > > > > > “Do not be alarmed, I have no dynamite in my pocket…Education is the > > > > > only bomb sanctioned by true anarchism, which stands for freedom in > > > > > the truest and highest sense.” – Emma Goldman > > > > > > On Nov 20, 6:54 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > "You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the > > wealthy > > > > > > out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, > > another > > > > > > person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give > > to > > > > > > anybody anything that the government does not first take from > > somebody > > > > > > else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to > > > > > > work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when > > > > > > the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because > > > > > > somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear > > friend, > > > > > > is about the end of any nation...You cannot multiply wealth by > > > > > > dividing it.." Dr. Adrian Rogers > > > > > > > Obviously our nation has been crumbling for some time. We've seen > > our > > > > > > manufacturing giants fall and corporate outsourcing leave people > > > > > > stranded. The government has become too large and dysfunctional > > and > > > > > > impotent other than its ability to waste taxpayer dollars, 98 > > billion > > > > > > in 2009. They could have given taxpayers thousands each to > > stimulate > > > > > > the economy, but that would have been too obvious and too easy. > > > > > > Instead they "take what we work for" and toss billions of taxpayer > > > > > > monies, to Wall street, Banks, and the Auto industry with much of > > it > > > > > > going to multi-million dollar bonuses to executives for doing > > > > > > absolutely nothing. It is obvious that the government is no longer > > a > > > > > > governing body for the people but merely a tool used by the wealthy > > > > > > for the wealthy, an entity without a conscience. People have become > > > > > > just cogs in the mechanism of operational finance, pawns in > > servitude > > > > > > to the moguls in power. People have lost their jobs, homes, > > health > > > > > > benefits, investments and more as simple collateral damage, while > > the > > > > > > politicians are still gainfully employed and the wealthy are > > getting > > > > > > the creme de la creme of the good life on the backs of the working > > > > > > class. I'm a bit amazed at the complacency of the people who just > > get > > > > > > slapped and turn the other cheek. > > > > > > > I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our > > > > > > liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow > > > > > > private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by > > > > > > inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will > > > > > > grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property > > until > > > > > > their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers > > > > > > conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and > > > > > > restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas > > Jefferson > > > > > > > And so it is, banks deposing masses of people from their dwellings > > > > > > without compassion, just the enforcement of a mortgage agreement, > > one > > > > > > which affords them the ability to earn multi-million dollar > > salaries > > > > > > annually. I'm just dismayed at the sight of what has happened to > > this > > > > > > once great country. I feel sold out. At this time in our history > > > > > > with the day of Thanksgiving approaching and some asking what it is > > we > > > > > > have to be thankful for, I can only look at my own small world in > > > > > > order to be thankful but not without looking at the big picture, > > the > > > > > > face of poverty around me, the pleas from local food banks and > > charity > > > > > > organizations living in the shadows of great wealth. Are we not > > just > > > > > > turkeys ourselves, bred for the feast?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=.
