He is a excellent composer and the music is wonderful...

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:38 PM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes the latter..    my spelling is terrible..
> Allan
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:17 PM, ornamentalmind 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> I know of an author Sartre and of a composer Satie…the latter of which
>> I used to play about 2 decades ago. I will assume you mean the latter.
>>
>> On Nov 23, 10:35 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I put my CD's on my computer so I could listen to music (95 + %
>> classical)
>> > while I was in the  hospital,,  I foulnd out that it would take over 14
>> days
>> > to play it all listening 24 hours a day.. One of my favorite composers
>> is
>> > Sarte
>> > Allan
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM, ornamentalmind <
>> [email protected]>wrote:
>>  >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Overall, for the classics I lean more towards Tellemann yet my Pandora
>> > > account includes diverse and rather eclectic stations such as: Banco
>> > > De Gaia, Johnny Winter, Boy on a Dolphin, It’s a Beautiful Day, The
>> > > Doobie Brothers, Quincy Jones, Tangerine Dream, Frank Zappa,
>> > > Cannonball Adderley, Roatary Connection, Minnie Riperton, Janis
>> > > Joplin, The Everly Brothers, The Allman Brothers, The Roaring 20s,
>> > > Paul Whiteman, Bela Bartok, Igor Stravinski, Stan Kenton, Henry
>> > > Mancini, Dave Brubeck, Spike Jones, Lute music, The United States of
>> > > America, Kitaro, Andreas Vollenweider, Violin music, The Eurythmics,
>> > > Oscar Peterson, Cream, Eartha Kitt, Spirit, Spring Can Really Hang You
>> > > Up The Most, Beatles, William Byrd, The Doors, Stevie Ray Vaughan,
>> > > various types of Blues, Ambient, Folk, Jazz, Bebop, Brazilian,
>> > > Chamber, Baroque, Opera, Piano, Symphonic Romantic and Classic, and
>> > > all forms of Rock, David Bowie, Tubular Bells, Frank Sinatra, 3 Leg
>> > > Torso, Cleo Laine, The Rolling Stones, Modern Jazz Quartet, and all
>> > > other types of esoteric stuff. I’m sure this is more than anyone would
>> > > want to know about my musical tastes.
>> >
>> > > On Nov 23, 7:36 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > I don't take to the wheel of sharp weapons.  I often wonder whether
>> > > > some operation of 'face' is present in language like this.  If we
>> > > > aren't careful Orn, our Beethoven appreciation will have certain
>> types
>> > > > wondering how we old fools get our jollies!  I was damned near
>> > > > exhausted after the Portuguese performance.  I was almost 'gone' as
>> > > > the choir sparked up in practice.  We have one of the alleged
>> 'world's
>> > > > finest' 10 miles away (Bridgewater Hall - one train hop), but they
>> > > > can't compare at 10 times the price (perhaps that is why).
>> >
>> > > > It may be we shouldn't be too distracted by this Bill, but I'll ask.
>> > > > The scientist would want to know what the experiences are - or at
>> > > > least a certain sort of scientist.  I don't mean that I shall nip
>> over
>> > > > the the electrodes and wire you up, though I'd probably give up to
>> > > > this, or scanning with appropriate people.  Mine aren't religious,
>> at
>> > > > least given what always comes to mind when a female singer swoons
>> me.
>> > > > The question of what the experiences are is also a question about
>> what
>> > > > the 'normal trance' might be.  I've never had to teach literature (I
>> > > > am a few pence short of the full shilling here), am a trained but
>> poor
>> > > > musician (no talent but tried) and so on.  I've noticed my ability
>> to
>> > > > appreciate things has changed substantially over the years,
>> generally
>> > > > for the better, though a bad accident has taken most music out of
>> the
>> > > > frame.  My grandson is currently asking why things on TV are funny.
>> > > > My old undergraduate classes mostly had to be taught why The
>> Simpsons
>> > > > was funny and proved almost totally unobservant in respect of films
>> > > > like 'Beer', 'Office Space' or 'Modern Times'.  Older classes would
>> > > > weep with laughter over the same presentations.
>> >
>> > > > There is some stuff I just don't want to appreciate, and some I am
>> > > > grateful to others for helping me into.  I generally hate
>> Shakespeare,
>> > > > though I really admire the Sky western Deadwood and am somewhat into
>> > > > 'Actors'.  Seeing men in skirts swinging incense always makes me
>> wish
>> > > > I was wearing tartan (it's not the skirts themselves) and carrying
>> the
>> > > > Claymore.  There are some 'indoctrinations' I don't want, some I've
>> > > > already had that need to be shifted.  If I would not see Shakespeare
>> > > > abolished, I would question why it is given such privilege.
>>  Religion
>> > > > seems much the same.  None of this is to discount what the
>> experiences
>> > > > might really be or not to want them.
>> >
>> > > > On 23 Nov, 12:47, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > I think you do your best work here while half asleep, Francis.
>>  Very
>> > > > > good read.
>> >
>> > > > > On Nov 22, 5:51 pm, fran the man <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > > On 22 Nov., 06:01, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>
>> wrote:>
>> > > I share your idealism Neil… even when it came to Occham….until I
>> > > > > > > noticed that when applied to itself, the razor disappears.
>> >
>> > > > > > This dialogue between Neil and Orn has set all kinds of ideas
>> > > sparking
>> > > > > > in my mind - I need more time to let many of them work and come
>> to
>> > > > > > some sort of fruit. Some brief comments:
>> >
>> > > > > > Master William's sharp instrument is a very useful tool. But we
>> > > should
>> > > > > > remain aware of its nature - as a tool - and, as every good
>> > > handworker
>> > > > > > knows, not every tool is appropriate for every occasion. There's
>> a
>> > > > > > word Neil has used here a couple of times, "simplexity", which I
>> > > like.
>> > > > > > There is often wonderful complexity in simple things, and
>> simplicity
>> > > > > > too in the complex. There is, I hope, some kind of truth to be
>> > > > > > obtained through reason (and it is here that Occam's razor works
>> > > > > > best). But there are also truths which express themselves in
>> art,
>> > > > > > music, literature, poetry. Ginsberg's "Howl" and Joyce's
>> "Ulysses"
>> > > > > > come to mind, as do Monet's "Water Lilies," Beethoven's 9th
>> Symphony
>> > > > > > and Pink Floyd's "Saucerful of Secrets." Just examples. Life,
>> both
>> > > > > > individual and common, is as much an artwork to be experienced
>> as it
>> > > > > > is a problem (or problems) to be solved. As Molly has put it
>> > > (although
>> > > > > > the words here are mine) we need to sustain the paradoxes put
>> forward
>> > > > > > by not rejecting one in favour of the other. Holding on to the
>> > > > > > apparent opposites, while letting everything go.
>> >
>> > > > > > Not very clear, I know, but I can't put it better than this at
>> the
>> > > > > > moment. As Pepys put it, and so to bed!
>> >
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