Have to agree on the assessment and the Rig-Veda.  Not sure on how to
do much quickly and really counter prejudice.  I used to set myself up
to channel it to start with.

On 28 Nov, 04:08, dj <[email protected]> wrote:
> why were you in the hospital ?
>
> On Nov 23, 10:35 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I put my CD's on my computer so I could listen to music (95 + % classical)
> > while I was in the  hospital,,  I foulnd out that it would take over 14 days
> > to play it all listening 24 hours a day.. One of my favorite composers is
> > Sarte
> > Allan
>
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM, ornamentalmind 
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > Overall, for the classics I lean more towards Tellemann yet my Pandora
> > > account includes diverse and rather eclectic stations such as: Banco
> > > De Gaia, Johnny Winter, Boy on a Dolphin, It’s a Beautiful Day, The
> > > Doobie Brothers, Quincy Jones, Tangerine Dream, Frank Zappa,
> > > Cannonball Adderley, Roatary Connection, Minnie Riperton, Janis
> > > Joplin, The Everly Brothers, The Allman Brothers, The Roaring 20s,
> > > Paul Whiteman, Bela Bartok, Igor Stravinski, Stan Kenton, Henry
> > > Mancini, Dave Brubeck, Spike Jones, Lute music, The United States of
> > > America, Kitaro, Andreas Vollenweider, Violin music, The Eurythmics,
> > > Oscar Peterson, Cream, Eartha Kitt, Spirit, Spring Can Really Hang You
> > > Up The Most, Beatles, William Byrd, The Doors, Stevie Ray Vaughan,
> > > various types of Blues, Ambient, Folk, Jazz, Bebop, Brazilian,
> > > Chamber, Baroque, Opera, Piano, Symphonic Romantic and Classic, and
> > > all forms of Rock, David Bowie, Tubular Bells, Frank Sinatra, 3 Leg
> > > Torso, Cleo Laine, The Rolling Stones, Modern Jazz Quartet, and all
> > > other types of esoteric stuff. I’m sure this is more than anyone would
> > > want to know about my musical tastes.
>
> > > On Nov 23, 7:36 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > I don't take to the wheel of sharp weapons.  I often wonder whether
> > > > some operation of 'face' is present in language like this.  If we
> > > > aren't careful Orn, our Beethoven appreciation will have certain types
> > > > wondering how we old fools get our jollies!  I was damned near
> > > > exhausted after the Portuguese performance.  I was almost 'gone' as
> > > > the choir sparked up in practice.  We have one of the alleged 'world's
> > > > finest' 10 miles away (Bridgewater Hall - one train hop), but they
> > > > can't compare at 10 times the price (perhaps that is why).
>
> > > > It may be we shouldn't be too distracted by this Bill, but I'll ask.
> > > > The scientist would want to know what the experiences are - or at
> > > > least a certain sort of scientist.  I don't mean that I shall nip over
> > > > the the electrodes and wire you up, though I'd probably give up to
> > > > this, or scanning with appropriate people.  Mine aren't religious, at
> > > > least given what always comes to mind when a female singer swoons me.
> > > > The question of what the experiences are is also a question about what
> > > > the 'normal trance' might be.  I've never had to teach literature (I
> > > > am a few pence short of the full shilling here), am a trained but poor
> > > > musician (no talent but tried) and so on.  I've noticed my ability to
> > > > appreciate things has changed substantially over the years, generally
> > > > for the better, though a bad accident has taken most music out of the
> > > > frame.  My grandson is currently asking why things on TV are funny.
> > > > My old undergraduate classes mostly had to be taught why The Simpsons
> > > > was funny and proved almost totally unobservant in respect of films
> > > > like 'Beer', 'Office Space' or 'Modern Times'.  Older classes would
> > > > weep with laughter over the same presentations.
>
> > > > There is some stuff I just don't want to appreciate, and some I am
> > > > grateful to others for helping me into.  I generally hate Shakespeare,
> > > > though I really admire the Sky western Deadwood and am somewhat into
> > > > 'Actors'.  Seeing men in skirts swinging incense always makes me wish
> > > > I was wearing tartan (it's not the skirts themselves) and carrying the
> > > > Claymore.  There are some 'indoctrinations' I don't want, some I've
> > > > already had that need to be shifted.  If I would not see Shakespeare
> > > > abolished, I would question why it is given such privilege.  Religion
> > > > seems much the same.  None of this is to discount what the experiences
> > > > might really be or not to want them.
>
> > > > On 23 Nov, 12:47, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I think you do your best work here while half asleep, Francis.  Very
> > > > > good read.
>
> > > > > On Nov 22, 5:51 pm, fran the man <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 22 Nov., 06:01, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:>
> > > I share your idealism Neil… even when it came to Occham….until I
> > > > > > > noticed that when applied to itself, the razor disappears.
>
> > > > > > This dialogue between Neil and Orn has set all kinds of ideas
> > > sparking
> > > > > > in my mind - I need more time to let many of them work and come to
> > > > > > some sort of fruit. Some brief comments:
>
> > > > > > Master William's sharp instrument is a very useful tool. But we
> > > should
> > > > > > remain aware of its nature - as a tool - and, as every good
> > > handworker
> > > > > > knows, not every tool is appropriate for every occasion. There's a
> > > > > > word Neil has used here a couple of times, "simplexity", which I
> > > like.
> > > > > > There is often wonderful complexity in simple things, and simplicity
> > > > > > too in the complex. There is, I hope, some kind of truth to be
> > > > > > obtained through reason (and it is here that Occam's razor works
> > > > > > best). But there are also truths which express themselves in art,
> > > > > > music, literature, poetry. Ginsberg's "Howl" and Joyce's "Ulysses"
> > > > > > come to mind, as do Monet's "Water Lilies," Beethoven's 9th Symphony
> > > > > > and Pink Floyd's "Saucerful of Secrets." Just examples. Life, both
> > > > > > individual and common, is as much an artwork to be experienced as it
> > > > > > is a problem (or problems) to be solved. As Molly has put it
> > > (although
> > > > > > the words here are mine) we need to sustain the paradoxes put 
> > > > > > forward
> > > > > > by not rejecting one in favour of the other. Holding on to the
> > > > > > apparent opposites, while letting everything go.
>
> > > > > > Not very clear, I know, but I can't put it better than this at the
> > > > > > moment. As Pepys put it, and so to bed!
>
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