I sense Orn, at his inscrutable best, penning a four-hour symphony for full orchestra in which we listen to the sound of no instruments being played.
On 23 Nov, 22:00, dj Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: > I really like -:] every note that he composed hits the heart deepnest..and > yes it is soothing..but much more.. > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:54 PM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > his music is very relaxing for me, I think I have somewhere around six > > hours of his piano music > > Allan > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:50 PM, dj Briscoe > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> He is a excellent composer and the music is wonderful... > > >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:38 PM, iam deheretic <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>> Yes the latter.. my spelling is terrible.. > >>> Allan > > >>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:17 PM, ornamentalmind < > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> I know of an author Sartre and of a composer Satie…the latter of which > >>>> I used to play about 2 decades ago. I will assume you mean the latter. > > >>>> On Nov 23, 10:35 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > I put my CD's on my computer so I could listen to music (95 + % > >>>> classical) > >>>> > while I was in the hospital,, I foulnd out that it would take over > >>>> 14 days > >>>> > to play it all listening 24 hours a day.. One of my favorite composers > >>>> is > >>>> > Sarte > >>>> > Allan > > >>>> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM, ornamentalmind < > >>>> [email protected]>wrote: > > >>>> > > Overall, for the classics I lean more towards Tellemann yet my > >>>> Pandora > >>>> > > account includes diverse and rather eclectic stations such as: Banco > >>>> > > De Gaia, Johnny Winter, Boy on a Dolphin, It’s a Beautiful Day, The > >>>> > > Doobie Brothers, Quincy Jones, Tangerine Dream, Frank Zappa, > >>>> > > Cannonball Adderley, Roatary Connection, Minnie Riperton, Janis > >>>> > > Joplin, The Everly Brothers, The Allman Brothers, The Roaring 20s, > >>>> > > Paul Whiteman, Bela Bartok, Igor Stravinski, Stan Kenton, Henry > >>>> > > Mancini, Dave Brubeck, Spike Jones, Lute music, The United States of > >>>> > > America, Kitaro, Andreas Vollenweider, Violin music, The Eurythmics, > >>>> > > Oscar Peterson, Cream, Eartha Kitt, Spirit, Spring Can Really Hang > >>>> You > >>>> > > Up The Most, Beatles, William Byrd, The Doors, Stevie Ray Vaughan, > >>>> > > various types of Blues, Ambient, Folk, Jazz, Bebop, Brazilian, > >>>> > > Chamber, Baroque, Opera, Piano, Symphonic Romantic and Classic, and > >>>> > > all forms of Rock, David Bowie, Tubular Bells, Frank Sinatra, 3 Leg > >>>> > > Torso, Cleo Laine, The Rolling Stones, Modern Jazz Quartet, and all > >>>> > > other types of esoteric stuff. I’m sure this is more than anyone > >>>> would > >>>> > > want to know about my musical tastes. > > >>>> > > On Nov 23, 7:36 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > > > I don't take to the wheel of sharp weapons. I often wonder > >>>> whether > >>>> > > > some operation of 'face' is present in language like this. If we > >>>> > > > aren't careful Orn, our Beethoven appreciation will have certain > >>>> types > >>>> > > > wondering how we old fools get our jollies! I was damned near > >>>> > > > exhausted after the Portuguese performance. I was almost 'gone' > >>>> as > >>>> > > > the choir sparked up in practice. We have one of the alleged > >>>> 'world's > >>>> > > > finest' 10 miles away (Bridgewater Hall - one train hop), but they > >>>> > > > can't compare at 10 times the price (perhaps that is why). > > >>>> > > > It may be we shouldn't be too distracted by this Bill, but I'll > >>>> ask. > >>>> > > > The scientist would want to know what the experiences are - or at > >>>> > > > least a certain sort of scientist. I don't mean that I shall nip > >>>> over > >>>> > > > the the electrodes and wire you up, though I'd probably give up to > >>>> > > > this, or scanning with appropriate people. Mine aren't religious, > >>>> at > >>>> > > > least given what always comes to mind when a female singer swoons > >>>> me. > >>>> > > > The question of what the experiences are is also a question about > >>>> what > >>>> > > > the 'normal trance' might be. I've never had to teach literature > >>>> (I > >>>> > > > am a few pence short of the full shilling here), am a trained but > >>>> poor > >>>> > > > musician (no talent but tried) and so on. I've noticed my ability > >>>> to > >>>> > > > appreciate things has changed substantially over the years, > >>>> generally > >>>> > > > for the better, though a bad accident has taken most music out of > >>>> the > >>>> > > > frame. My grandson is currently asking why things on TV are > >>>> funny. > >>>> > > > My old undergraduate classes mostly had to be taught why The > >>>> Simpsons > >>>> > > > was funny and proved almost totally unobservant in respect of > >>>> films > >>>> > > > like 'Beer', 'Office Space' or 'Modern Times'. Older classes > >>>> would > >>>> > > > weep with laughter over the same presentations. > > >>>> > > > There is some stuff I just don't want to appreciate, and some I am > >>>> > > > grateful to others for helping me into. I generally hate > >>>> Shakespeare, > >>>> > > > though I really admire the Sky western Deadwood and am somewhat > >>>> into > >>>> > > > 'Actors'. Seeing men in skirts swinging incense always makes me > >>>> wish > >>>> > > > I was wearing tartan (it's not the skirts themselves) and carrying > >>>> the > >>>> > > > Claymore. There are some 'indoctrinations' I don't want, some > >>>> I've > >>>> > > > already had that need to be shifted. If I would not see > >>>> Shakespeare > >>>> > > > abolished, I would question why it is given such privilege. > >>>> Religion > >>>> > > > seems much the same. None of this is to discount what the > >>>> experiences > >>>> > > > might really be or not to want them. > > >>>> > > > On 23 Nov, 12:47, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> > > > > I think you do your best work here while half asleep, Francis. > >>>> Very > >>>> > > > > good read. > > >>>> > > > > On Nov 22, 5:51 pm, fran the man <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> > > > > > On 22 Nov., 06:01, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote:> > >>>> > > I share your idealism Neil… even when it came to Occham….until I > >>>> > > > > > > noticed that when applied to itself, the razor disappears. > > >>>> > > > > > This dialogue between Neil and Orn has set all kinds of ideas > >>>> > > sparking > >>>> > > > > > in my mind - I need more time to let many of them work and > >>>> come to > >>>> > > > > > some sort of fruit. Some brief comments: > > >>>> > > > > > Master William's sharp instrument is a very useful tool. But > >>>> we > >>>> > > should > >>>> > > > > > remain aware of its nature - as a tool - and, as every good > >>>> > > handworker > >>>> > > > > > knows, not every tool is appropriate for every occasion. > >>>> There's a > >>>> > > > > > word Neil has used here a couple of times, "simplexity", which > >>>> I > >>>> > > like. > >>>> > > > > > There is often wonderful complexity in simple things, and > >>>> simplicity > >>>> > > > > > too in the complex. There is, I hope, some kind of truth to be > >>>> > > > > > obtained through reason (and it is here that Occam's razor > >>>> works > >>>> > > > > > best). But there are also truths which express themselves in > >>>> art, > >>>> > > > > > music, literature, poetry. Ginsberg's "Howl" and Joyce's > >>>> "Ulysses" > >>>> > > > > > come to mind, as do Monet's "Water Lilies," Beethoven's 9th > >>>> Symphony > >>>> > > > > > and Pink Floyd's "Saucerful of Secrets." Just examples. Life, > >>>> both > >>>> > > > > > individual and common, is as much an artwork to be experienced > >>>> as it > >>>> > > > > > is a problem (or problems) to be solved. As Molly has put it > >>>> > > (although > >>>> > > > > > the words here are mine) we need to sustain the paradoxes put > >>>> forward > >>>> > > > > > by not rejecting one in favour of the other. Holding on to the > >>>> > > > > > apparent opposites, while letting everything go. > > >>>> > > > > > Not very clear, I know, but I can't put it better than this at > >>>> the > >>>> > > > > > moment. As Pepys put it, and so to bed! > > >>>> > > > > > Francis- Hide quoted text - > > >>>> > > > - Show quoted text - > > >>>> > > -- > > >>>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups > >>>> > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > >>>> > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > >>>> > > .com> > >>>> <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > >>>> > > . > >>>> > > For more options, visit this group at > >>>> > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=. > > >>>> > -- > >>>> > ( > >>>> > ) > >>>> > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > >>>> > - Show quoted text - > > >>>> -- > > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > >>>> .com> > >>>> . > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=. > > >>> -- > >>> ( > >>> ) > >>> I_D Allan > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> ""Minds Eye"" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > >>> .com> > >>> . > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> ""Minds Eye"" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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