Your right! somewhat...takes moeny to have a kingdom On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:02 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Isn't Palins main campain slogan "Show me the money Honey!" > Allan > > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:28 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Palin is an idiot. It is very scary that such figures have any >> popularity. 'International money' probably is the problem. It seems >> increasingly sourced for and in wars. The idea of Jews wanting to >> flock to Israel seems to fly in the face of reality. Palin is >> probably just cashing up. She sort of reminds me of reality TV and >> the increasing desire of many people to see themselves in the public >> eye. >> >> On 24 Nov, 09:47, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> > By Bruce Wilson >> > Posted on November 21, 2009, Printed on November 23, 2009 >> http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/www.alternet.org/144111/ >> > >> > There's some acceptance<http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/ >> > archives/2009/11/sarah_palin_a...>that >> > statements such as Sarah Palin's prediction that Jews will soon be >> > "flocking to Israel" may indicate Palin holds apocalyptic beliefs. >> > What's >> > not understood is that she's closely associated with a religious >> > tendency<http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/5/114652/6239>whose >> > leaders promote anti-Jewish conspiracy theories, including one most >> > commonly used by the Third Reich, in the 1930's and 1940's, to whip up >> > anti-Semitic hatreds: the claim that a worldwide cabal of Jewish >> > bankers >> > manipulates the world economy and preys on working classes. >> > >> > Stumping for her new autobiography, Sarah Palin has made a round of >> > interviews with high profile media figures such as Oprah Winfrey and >> > Barbara >> > Walters. In the Walters >> > interview<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXuBIyJsbCE>Palin justified >> > her support for expansion of Jewish settler enclaves on >> > Israel's West Bank with a strange prediction. Walters asked, "Now >> > let's talk >> > about some issues - the Middle East. The Obama Administration does not >> > want >> > Israel to build any more settlements on what they consider Palestinian >> > territory. What is your view on this ?" Palin responded, "I disagree >> > with >> > the Obama Administration on that. I believe that, um, the Jewish >> > settlements >> > should be allowed to be expanded upon because the population of Israel >> > is >> > going to grow. More and more Jewish people will be flocking to Israel >> > in the >> > days and weeks and months ahead." >> > >> > Why might Palin's prediction come to pass ? >> > >> > In the 1920's and 1930's, rising anti-Semitism was propelled, in part, >> > by >> > conspiracy theories alleging that Jewish bankers such as the >> > Rothschild >> > banking family controlled both the German and world economies through >> > the >> > manipulation of global money markets. Leaders in Sarah Palin's >> > religious >> > tendency have for years been promoting extremely similar conspiracy >> > theories. Some of these allege that the Rothschild banking family >> > heads an >> > international conspiracy that dominates much of the world economy and >> > controls the U.S.economy through the Federal Reserve. >> > >> > In the 1980's and 1990's that conspiracy theory was folded into a >> > apocalyptic meta-conspiracy narrative claiming that Jews and >> > "Illuminati" >> > controlled, or were close to controlling, the US government and were >> > plotting to implement a "New World Order." The narrative went on to >> > claim >> > that the Jewish/Illuminati conspiracy was imminently ready to call up >> > hundreds of thousands of foreign troops hidden on US army bases and in >> > National Parks, who would round up patriotic Christians and pack them >> > into >> > trains which would bring them to internment camps where, in some >> > versions of >> > the narratives, those Christians would be slaughtered via machine >> > guns, >> > guillotines, ovens, or poison gas. >> > >> > While there are secular versions of that New World Order meta- >> > conspiracy >> > narrative, most of the narratives are rooted in Christian apocalyptic >> > end-time narratives that envision, with the coming of the New World >> > Order, >> > the rise of a murderous, tyrannical anti-Christ figure. But the fusion >> > of >> > anti-Jewish conspiracy theory with an anti-Christ narrative has >> > precedent. >> > >> > The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, probably the single most >> > destructive >> > work of anti-Jewish propaganda ever created, was first popularized >> > through >> > being printed as the final chapter in Russian Orthodox priest Sergei >> > Nilus' >> > 1905 book *The Great within the Small and Antichrist, an Imminent >> > Political >> > Possibility. Notes of an Orthodox Believer*. Alfred Rosenberg, >> > Hitler's >> > chief ideologist, tells of being given a copy of Nilus' book in 1917, >> > while >> > Rosenberg was studying in Moscow. >> > >> > In short, this comes around to a concept widely promoted by Christian >> > Zionists such as Christians United For Israel >> > <http://www.cufi.org/>Founder, Texas megachurch pastor John Hagee, of >> > the "fishers >> > and hunters <http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/10/2/115153/281/>": >> > >> > *"Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall >> > fish >> > them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them >> > from >> > every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the >> > rocks."* - >> > Jeremiah 16:16, KJV >> > >> > Hagee and other Christian Zionists interpret that Biblical passage >> > from the >> > Book of Jeremiah as a prophecy which applies to current-day Jews >> > worldwide. >> > >> > Christian Zionists <http://www.talk2action.org/story/ >> > 2009/11/2/141343/402>, >> > broadly speaking, are Christians who think God wills it that all Jews >> > live >> > in Israel - and who go to elaborate lengths to bring that about. >> > Regardless >> > of whatever differences there might be between John Hagee's and Sarah >> > Palin's respective brands of Christianity, the two seem to share a >> > narrative >> > common to Christian Zionist theology, that a terrible upwelling of >> > anti-Jewish hatred will in the end-times cause Jewish citizens of >> > every >> > nation on Earth to make aliyah and move to Israel. >> > >> > "Fishers" are, in that expected scenario, evangelists who try to >> > convert >> > Jews to Christianity and coax them to move to Israel. "Hunters" are >> > overt >> > anti-Semites who will come to hunt and kill those Jews who have not >> > listened >> > to the "fishers" and moved to Israel. >> > >> > John Hagee's controversial<http://www.talk2action.org/story/ >> > 2008/5/15/141520/281>late >> > 2005 "God sent Hitler" sermon, which in May 2008 caused >> > then-presidential candidate John McCain to >> > renounce<http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/us/politics/23hagee.html>a >> > long-sought political endorsement from Hagee, was more gratuitously >> > offensive, even, than the general public was aware. During the >> > internationally televised sermon, as Hagee asserted Adolf Hitler and >> > the >> > Nazis were hunters sent by God to chase Europe's Jews towards >> > Palestine, >> > pastor Hagee pantomimed holding a rifle aimed at, presumably, those >> > hunted >> > Jews. >> > >> > [*below: in internationally broadcast last 2005 sermon, Christians >> > United >> > For Israel founder John Hagee outlines his beliefs on the meaning of >> > the >> > Biblical scripture of Jeremiah 16:16*] >> > >> > http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/144111/what_sarah_palin%27s_%22je. >> .. >> > >> > Paradoxically, while "fishers" such as John Hagee decry overt acts of >> > hatred >> > and violence directed at Jews, they also promote various anti-Jewish >> > myths, >> > slurs, and conspiracy theories that foster anti-Semitism. The same >> > grotesque >> > paradox surfaces in Sarah Palin's religious tendency as well. >> > >> > In September 2008, shortly after John McCain had picked Sarah Palin as >> > a >> > running mate, footage surfaced from an October 2005 ceremony, held at >> > what >> > many argue is by far Sarah Palin's most important church, the Wasilla >> > Assembly of God. In the footage, saved by a blogger before the church >> > partially scrubbed video and audio of past sermons and events from its >> > website archive, Kenyan evangelist Thomas Muthee officiated over a >> > strange >> > ceremony in which Muthee and two other pastors blessed and anointed >> > Sarah >> > Palin and called upon God to protect her from "every spirit of >> > witchcraft."<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBrU7SwQbe0#t=2m19s> >> > >> > Before the ceremony Muthee gave a short speech, during which he >> > advocated >> > that the Christian church should "infiltrate" seven key sectors of >> > society<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl4HIc-yfgM#t=30s>(including >> > business, government, education, and media). During that speech, >> > Muthee claimed <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl4HIc-yfgM#t=1m29s> >> > that >> > "Israelites" "run the economics" of America. But Bishop Muthee's >> > apparently >> > anti-Jewish attack was mild compared to those of some of his >> > colleagues. >> > Muthee is a prominent >> > celebrity<http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/20/171755/145/>in >> > the religious movement described below. >> > >> > Sarah Palin's least scrutinized but arguably most significant >> > religious >> > influence, is Alaskan evangelist Mary >> > Glazier<http://www.alternet.org/blogs/politics/144005/palin >> > %27s_prayer_leader...>, >> > whose personal prayer group Palin joined in 1989 according to >> > Glazier<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5kLreAmgGE#t=1m43s>(linked >> > Glazier talk from June 13, 2008 conference held near Seattle). >> > Multiple sources including a January 2009 >> > article<http://www.charismamag.com/index.php/features/2009/january/ >> > 20101-the-...>in >> > what has become the flagship magazine for American charismatic >> > Christians, Charisma, have confirmed the Palin-Glazier relationship >> > continued into 2008. Glazier's prayer warriors began praying for Sarah >> > Palin's political success nearly two decades ago because, as Glazier >> > was >> > quoted in the Charisma article, "We felt then that she was the one God >> > had >> > selected." >> > >> > As I've described in a recent Talk To Action >> > story<http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/11/16/172837/58>, >> > late in September 2008 Mary Glazier sent out, through her personal >> > prayer >> > networks, a "prophetic warning" suggesting that a tragic act of >> > terrorism >> > might soon leave Sarah Palin alone with the American flag, "stepping >> > into an >> > office that she was mantled for." Glazier's warning appeared to >> > suggest that >> > John McCain would win the 2008 election but be killed in a terrorist >> > attack, >> > leaving Sarah Palin to become president. >> > >> > Mary Glazier is no random evangelist - she is a high level leader and >> > a >> > prophet <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWvCUIdT3QU#t=1m52s> in the >> > rapidly >> > coalescing religious movement known as the New Apostolic >> > Reformation<http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/5/28/19033/8502>. >> > Glazier is also an "apostle" in its central leadership group, the >> > International >> > Coalition of Apostles <http://www.apostlesnet.net/>, formed in 2001. >> > In a >> > January 7th, 2009 appearance at the Wasilla Assembly of God, Glazier's >> > fellow ICA apostle Dutch Sheets credited >> > Glazier<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWvCUIdT3QU#t=1m15s>with >> > bringing the New Apostolic Reformation to Alaska. At least 5 leaders >> > in >> > the movement, including three ICA apostles, have appeared at the >> > Wasilla >> > Assembly of God. In June 2008, Sarah Palin spent Alaska State travel >> > funds >> > to fly from Juneau to the Mat-Su Valley, to >> > attend<http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/7/17/111343/893/>two >> > Wasilla Assembly of God related events. >> > >> > There are over 500 apostles in the ICA, some of whom promote anti- >> > Jewish >> > bigotry on an industrial scale. Some of Glazier's fellow apostles, >> > such as Cindy >> > Jacobs <http://www.generals.org/>, pepper their public speeches with >> > anti-Jewish slurs <http://www.youtube.com/watch? >> > v=Xges7mFi6iY#t=8m26s>. >> > Other ICA apostles incite anti-Jewish hatred in a more focused manner. >> > >> > ICA Apostle Tom Hess, who runs a messianic ministry in Jerusalem, has >> > sent >> > out worldwide, by his own accounting over 800,000 copies, in 24 >> > different >> > languages, of a book entitled "Let My People Go!" According to Hess >> > 500,000 >> > of those copies have been distributed in America. As I >> > wrote<http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/12/25/124734/30/>in >> > September 2007, >> > >> > If you were one of the... Jewish Americans who received "Let My People >> > Go: >> > The Struggle Of The American Jew To Come Home To >> > Israel"<http://www.morningstarministries.org/Shop/Sections/Items/ >> > Item.aspx?it...>in >> > the >> > mail<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php? >> > az=view_all&...>the >> > first thing you probably would have noticed would have been the cover >> > of >> > the book, which features a somewhat crude drawing of a man in a >> > business >> > suit, with a briefcase, straining against numerous ropes tying him to >> > a >> > signpost which reads "Wall Street". There are so many of these ropes >> > that >> > it's quite obvious the man will never be able to break them simply by >> > straining. If you had bothered to read the book, rather than simply >> > tossing >> > it in the trash, you'd have found no ambiguity ; the book says that >> > the man >> > on the cover is supposed to be Jewish, and it's hard to escape the >> > implication that "Let My People Go" begins, and quite noisily so, with >> > the >> > premise that Jews, as a people, are bound to materialism, selfish and >> > greedy. >> > >> > Rivaling, or perhaps surpassing, Tom Hess is ICA apostle Jim Ammerman, >> > who >> > presides over between six and eight percent of the chaplains in the >> > United >> > States military, claims high level contacts in the Pentagon, and who >> > September 2008 issued a thinly veiled >> > threat<http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/6/23/111516/011>against >> > the lives of Democratic senators Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, >> > Biden, and Dodd. >> > >> > Ammerman played an important role in inciting the 1990's militia >> > movement - >> > through barnstorming national tours, under the auspices of a Topeka, >> > Kansas, >> > Christian ministry called The Prophecy Club, during which Ammerman >> > deployed >> > an elaborate anti-Semitic conspiracy >> > theory<http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/6/22/115820/165>claiming >> > that the United States government, controlled by evil forces, was >> > imminently ready to declare martial law, round up dissenting >> > Americans, and >> > herd them into concentration camps. Ammerman claimed to have a "high >> > level >> > security clearance." Behind the evil >> > conspiracy<http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/5/20/17201/4681>, >> > claimed Ammerman, were Rothschilds and other international Jewish >> > banking >> > concerns. >> > >> > I began this story by mentioning John Hagee for what was a less-than- >> > casual >> > reason. Like Jim Ammerman, John Hagee also distributes, on a worldwide >> > scale, conspiracy theory claiming that Rothschilds control >> > America<http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/6/16/163859/055/>through >> > the Federal Reserve. Hagee's conspiracy theory-laden sermons go out >> > on Christian broadcast networks that according to John Hagee's >> > official >> > biography reach 190 countries around the globe. According to Jim >> > Ammerman, >> > he and John Hagee are good friends who sometimes go out for lunch. >> > >> > Both Jim Ammerman and John Hagee have promoted, on a mass scale, >> > conspiracy >> > theories alleging Jewish bankers rule the world. Recently, famed >> > Holocaust >> > survivor, scholar, author, and Nobel Prize winner Elie Wiesel gave a >> > keynote >> > address <http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/10/24/131516/27> at one >> > of >> > John Hagee's church events. According to the >> > ADL<http://www.adl.org/special_reports/control_of_fed/ >> > fed_rothschild.asp>, >> > claims that Rothschilds head such an alleged conspiracy amount to a >> > "classic >> > anti-Semitic myth." >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. >> >> >> > > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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