On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 2:06 AM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > In contrast to some other "men", at least you know about your > deficiencies, dj. :-)
Hey! I resemble that remark! "A good man always knows his limitations." -Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry. On an observational note; this place is getting crowded with dj's. Just stating here that I'm not those other dudes. dj > > On 26 Nov., 06:56, dj Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: >> I tell you I hope I never get like that ...it is a three ring circus...I >> have never heard a preacher use membrane///What did you do make this >> movie...????As a Joke...bad ..shocking..dumb-found--good thing we can weed >> out what is real and what is not...what about the ones that believe >> this..this is not right...I will say no more ..and just think I thought at >> first she was doing a good job...I am from the old school would like men's >> brain's on the important things...I know I will get some slack from this >> statement... >> >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I think some of those people have been watching too many movies. >> >> > On Nov 25, 5:38 pm, dj Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > Oh ...oh...oh....Membrane?????? different...This just is not >> > > right....(chuckle):\ >> >> > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > Palin is like a circus act, she belongs in a three ring circus. I >> > > > can't believe people take her as a serious contender for anything but >> > > > a dipsy doodle. I think some of the youtube presentations are >> > > > hilarious but this one is really sick. >> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5kLreAmgGE#t=1m43s >> >> > > > On Nov 24, 8:28 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > Palin is an idiot. It is very scary that such figures have any >> > > > > popularity. 'International money' probably is the problem. It seems >> > > > > increasingly sourced for and in wars. The idea of Jews wanting to >> > > > > flock to Israel seems to fly in the face of reality. Palin is >> > > > > probably just cashing up. She sort of reminds me of reality TV and >> > > > > the increasing desire of many people to see themselves in the public >> > > > > eye. >> >> > > > > On 24 Nov, 09:47, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > By Bruce Wilson >> > > > > > Posted on November 21, 2009, Printed on November 23, 2009 >> > > >http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/www.alternet.org/144111/ >> >> > > > > > There's some acceptance<http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/ >> > > > > > archives/2009/11/sarah_palin_a...>that >> > > > > > statements such as Sarah Palin's prediction that Jews will soon be >> > > > > > "flocking to Israel" may indicate Palin holds apocalyptic beliefs. >> > > > > > What's >> > > > > > not understood is that she's closely associated with a religious >> > > > > > tendency<http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/5/114652/6239 >> > >whose >> > > > > > leaders promote anti-Jewish conspiracy theories, including one most >> > > > > > commonly used by the Third Reich, in the 1930's and 1940's, to whip >> > up >> > > > > > anti-Semitic hatreds: the claim that a worldwide cabal of Jewish >> > > > > > bankers >> > > > > > manipulates the world economy and preys on working classes. >> >> > > > > > Stumping for her new autobiography, Sarah Palin has made a round of >> > > > > > interviews with high profile media figures such as Oprah Winfrey >> > and >> > > > > > Barbara >> > > > > > Walters. In the Walters >> > > > > > interview<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXuBIyJsbCE>Palin >> > justified >> > > > > > her support for expansion of Jewish settler enclaves on >> > > > > > Israel's West Bank with a strange prediction. Walters asked, "Now >> > > > > > let's talk >> > > > > > about some issues - the Middle East. The Obama Administration does >> > not >> > > > > > want >> > > > > > Israel to build any more settlements on what they consider >> > Palestinian >> > > > > > territory. What is your view on this ?" Palin responded, "I >> > disagree >> > > > > > with >> > > > > > the Obama Administration on that. I believe that, um, the Jewish >> > > > > > settlements >> > > > > > should be allowed to be expanded upon because the population of >> > Israel >> > > > > > is >> > > > > > going to grow. More and more Jewish people will be flocking to >> > Israel >> > > > > > in the >> > > > > > days and weeks and months ahead." >> >> > > > > > Why might Palin's prediction come to pass ? >> >> > > > > > In the 1920's and 1930's, rising anti-Semitism was propelled, in >> > part, >> > > > > > by >> > > > > > conspiracy theories alleging that Jewish bankers such as the >> > > > > > Rothschild >> > > > > > banking family controlled both the German and world economies >> > through >> > > > > > the >> > > > > > manipulation of global money markets. Leaders in Sarah Palin's >> > > > > > religious >> > > > > > tendency have for years been promoting extremely similar conspiracy >> > > > > > theories. Some of these allege that the Rothschild banking family >> > > > > > heads an >> > > > > > international conspiracy that dominates much of the world economy >> > and >> > > > > > controls the U.S.economy through the Federal Reserve. >> >> > > > > > In the 1980's and 1990's that conspiracy theory was folded into a >> > > > > > apocalyptic meta-conspiracy narrative claiming that Jews and >> > > > > > "Illuminati" >> > > > > > controlled, or were close to controlling, the US government and >> > were >> > > > > > plotting to implement a "New World Order." The narrative went on to >> > > > > > claim >> > > > > > that the Jewish/Illuminati conspiracy was imminently ready to call >> > up >> > > > > > hundreds of thousands of foreign troops hidden on US army bases and >> > in >> > > > > > National Parks, who would round up patriotic Christians and pack >> > them >> > > > > > into >> > > > > > trains which would bring them to internment camps where, in some >> > > > > > versions of >> > > > > > the narratives, those Christians would be slaughtered via machine >> > > > > > guns, >> > > > > > guillotines, ovens, or poison gas. >> >> > > > > > While there are secular versions of that New World Order meta- >> > > > > > conspiracy >> > > > > > narrative, most of the narratives are rooted in Christian >> > apocalyptic >> > > > > > end-time narratives that envision, with the coming of the New World >> > > > > > Order, >> > > > > > the rise of a murderous, tyrannical anti-Christ figure. But the >> > fusion >> > > > > > of >> > > > > > anti-Jewish conspiracy theory with an anti-Christ narrative has >> > > > > > precedent. >> >> > > > > > The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, probably the single most >> > > > > > destructive >> > > > > > work of anti-Jewish propaganda ever created, was first popularized >> > > > > > through >> > > > > > being printed as the final chapter in Russian Orthodox priest >> > Sergei >> > > > > > Nilus' >> > > > > > 1905 book *The Great within the Small and Antichrist, an Imminent >> > > > > > Political >> > > > > > Possibility. Notes of an Orthodox Believer*. Alfred Rosenberg, >> > > > > > Hitler's >> > > > > > chief ideologist, tells of being given a copy of Nilus' book in >> > 1917, >> > > > > > while >> > > > > > Rosenberg was studying in Moscow. >> >> > > > > > In short, this comes around to a concept widely promoted by >> > Christian >> > > > > > Zionists such as Christians United For Israel >> > > > > > <http://www.cufi.org/>Founder, Texas megachurch pastor John Hagee, >> > of >> > > > > > the "fishers >> > > > > > and hunters < >> >http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/10/2/115153/281/>": >> >> > > > > > *"Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they >> > shall >> > > > > > fish >> > > > > > them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt >> > them >> > > > > > from >> > > > > > every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the >> > > > > > rocks."* - >> > > > > > Jeremiah 16:16, KJV >> >> > > > > > Hagee and other Christian Zionists interpret that Biblical passage >> > > > > > from the >> > > > > > Book of Jeremiah as a prophecy which applies to current-day Jews >> > > > > > worldwide. >> >> > > > > > Christian Zionists <http://www.talk2action.org/story/ >> > > > > > 2009/11/2/141343/402>, >> > > > > > broadly speaking, are Christians who think God wills it that all >> > Jews >> > > > > > live >> > > > > > in Israel - and who go to elaborate lengths to bring that about. >> > > > > > Regardless >> > > > > > of whatever differences there might be between John Hagee's and >> > Sarah >> > > > > > Palin's respective brands of Christianity, the two seem to share a >> > > > > > narrative >> > > > > > common to Christian Zionist theology, that a terrible upwelling of >> > > > > > anti-Jewish hatred will in the end-times cause Jewish citizens of >> > > > > > every >> > > > > > nation on Earth to make aliyah and move to Israel. >> >> > > > > > "Fishers" are, in that expected scenario, evangelists who try to >> > > > > > convert >> > > > > > Jews to Christianity and coax them to move to Israel. "Hunters" are >> > > > > > overt >> > > > > > anti-Semites who will come to hunt and kill those Jews who have not >> > > > > > listened >> > > > > > to the "fishers" and moved to Israel. >> >> > > > > > John Hagee's controversial<http://www.talk2action.org/story/ >> > > > > > 2008/5/15/141520/281>late >> > > > > > 2005 "God sent Hitler" sermon, which in May 2008 caused >> > > > > > then-presidential candidate John McCain to >> > > > > > renounce< >> >http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/us/politics/23hagee.html>a >> > > > > > long-sought political endorsement from Hagee, was more gratuitously >> > > > > > offensive, even, than the general public was aware. During the >> > > > > > internationally televised sermon, as Hagee asserted Adolf Hitler >> > and >> > > > > > the >> > > > > > Nazis were hunters sent by God to chase Europe's Jews towards >> > > > > > Palestine, >> > > > > > pastor Hagee pantomimed holding a rifle aimed at, presumably, those >> > > > > > hunted >> > > > > > Jews. >> >> > > > > > [*below: in internationally broadcast last 2005 sermon, Christians >> > > > > > United >> > > > > > For Israel founder John Hagee outlines his beliefs on the meaning >> > of >> > > > > > the >> > > > > > Biblical scripture of Jeremiah 16:16*] >> >> >http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/144111/what_sarah_palin%27s_%22je. >> > > > .. >> >> > > > > > Paradoxically, while "fishers" such as John Hagee decry overt acts >> > of >> > > > > > hatred >> > > > > > and violence directed at Jews, they also promote various >> > anti-Jewish >> > > > > > myths, >> > > > > > slurs, and conspiracy theories that foster >> >> ... >> >> Erfahren Sie mehr » > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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