*** patiently awaits for Palin's head to turn around *** On Nov 25, 6:50 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > I think some of those people have been watching too many movies. > > On Nov 25, 5:38 pm, dj Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Oh ...oh...oh....Membrane?????? different...This just is not > > right....(chuckle):\ > > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Palin is like a circus act, she belongs in a three ring circus. I > > > can't believe people take her as a serious contender for anything but > > > a dipsy doodle. I think some of the youtube presentations are > > > hilarious but this one is really sick. > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5kLreAmgGE#t=1m43s > > > > On Nov 24, 8:28 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Palin is an idiot. It is very scary that such figures have any > > > > popularity. 'International money' probably is the problem. It seems > > > > increasingly sourced for and in wars. The idea of Jews wanting to > > > > flock to Israel seems to fly in the face of reality. Palin is > > > > probably just cashing up. She sort of reminds me of reality TV and > > > > the increasing desire of many people to see themselves in the public > > > > eye. > > > > > On 24 Nov, 09:47, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > By Bruce Wilson > > > > > Posted on November 21, 2009, Printed on November 23, 2009 > > >http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/www.alternet.org/144111/ > > > > > > There's some acceptance<http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/ > > > > > archives/2009/11/sarah_palin_a...>that > > > > > statements such as Sarah Palin's prediction that Jews will soon be > > > > > "flocking to Israel" may indicate Palin holds apocalyptic beliefs. > > > > > What's > > > > > not understood is that she's closely associated with a religious > > > > > tendency<http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/5/114652/6239>whose > > > > > leaders promote anti-Jewish conspiracy theories, including one most > > > > > commonly used by the Third Reich, in the 1930's and 1940's, to whip up > > > > > anti-Semitic hatreds: the claim that a worldwide cabal of Jewish > > > > > bankers > > > > > manipulates the world economy and preys on working classes. > > > > > > Stumping for her new autobiography, Sarah Palin has made a round of > > > > > interviews with high profile media figures such as Oprah Winfrey and > > > > > Barbara > > > > > Walters. In the Walters > > > > > interview<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXuBIyJsbCE>Palin justified > > > > > her support for expansion of Jewish settler enclaves on > > > > > Israel's West Bank with a strange prediction. Walters asked, "Now > > > > > let's talk > > > > > about some issues - the Middle East. The Obama Administration does not > > > > > want > > > > > Israel to build any more settlements on what they consider Palestinian > > > > > territory. What is your view on this ?" Palin responded, "I disagree > > > > > with > > > > > the Obama Administration on that. I believe that, um, the Jewish > > > > > settlements > > > > > should be allowed to be expanded upon because the population of Israel > > > > > is > > > > > going to grow. More and more Jewish people will be flocking to Israel > > > > > in the > > > > > days and weeks and months ahead." > > > > > > Why might Palin's prediction come to pass ? > > > > > > In the 1920's and 1930's, rising anti-Semitism was propelled, in part, > > > > > by > > > > > conspiracy theories alleging that Jewish bankers such as the > > > > > Rothschild > > > > > banking family controlled both the German and world economies through > > > > > the > > > > > manipulation of global money markets. Leaders in Sarah Palin's > > > > > religious > > > > > tendency have for years been promoting extremely similar conspiracy > > > > > theories. Some of these allege that the Rothschild banking family > > > > > heads an > > > > > international conspiracy that dominates much of the world economy and > > > > > controls the U.S.economy through the Federal Reserve. > > > > > > In the 1980's and 1990's that conspiracy theory was folded into a > > > > > apocalyptic meta-conspiracy narrative claiming that Jews and > > > > > "Illuminati" > > > > > controlled, or were close to controlling, the US government and were > > > > > plotting to implement a "New World Order." The narrative went on to > > > > > claim > > > > > that the Jewish/Illuminati conspiracy was imminently ready to call up > > > > > hundreds of thousands of foreign troops hidden on US army bases and in > > > > > National Parks, who would round up patriotic Christians and pack them > > > > > into > > > > > trains which would bring them to internment camps where, in some > > > > > versions of > > > > > the narratives, those Christians would be slaughtered via machine > > > > > guns, > > > > > guillotines, ovens, or poison gas. > > > > > > While there are secular versions of that New World Order meta- > > > > > conspiracy > > > > > narrative, most of the narratives are rooted in Christian apocalyptic > > > > > end-time narratives that envision, with the coming of the New World > > > > > Order, > > > > > the rise of a murderous, tyrannical anti-Christ figure. But the fusion > > > > > of > > > > > anti-Jewish conspiracy theory with an anti-Christ narrative has > > > > > precedent. > > > > > > The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, probably the single most > > > > > destructive > > > > > work of anti-Jewish propaganda ever created, was first popularized > > > > > through > > > > > being printed as the final chapter in Russian Orthodox priest Sergei > > > > > Nilus' > > > > > 1905 book *The Great within the Small and Antichrist, an Imminent > > > > > Political > > > > > Possibility. Notes of an Orthodox Believer*. Alfred Rosenberg, > > > > > Hitler's > > > > > chief ideologist, tells of being given a copy of Nilus' book in 1917, > > > > > while > > > > > Rosenberg was studying in Moscow. > > > > > > In short, this comes around to a concept widely promoted by Christian > > > > > Zionists such as Christians United For Israel > > > > > <http://www.cufi.org/>Founder, Texas megachurch pastor John Hagee, of > > > > > the "fishers > > > > > and hunters <http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/10/2/115153/281/>": > > > > > > *"Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall > > > > > fish > > > > > them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them > > > > > from > > > > > every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the > > > > > rocks."* - > > > > > Jeremiah 16:16, KJV > > > > > > Hagee and other Christian Zionists interpret that Biblical passage > > > > > from the > > > > > Book of Jeremiah as a prophecy which applies to current-day Jews > > > > > worldwide. > > > > > > Christian Zionists <http://www.talk2action.org/story/ > > > > > 2009/11/2/141343/402>, > > > > > broadly speaking, are Christians who think God wills it that all Jews > > > > > live > > > > > in Israel - and who go to elaborate lengths to bring that about. > > > > > Regardless > > > > > of whatever differences there might be between John Hagee's and Sarah > > > > > Palin's respective brands of Christianity, the two seem to share a > > > > > narrative > > > > > common to Christian Zionist theology, that a terrible upwelling of > > > > > anti-Jewish hatred will in the end-times cause Jewish citizens of > > > > > every > > > > > nation on Earth to make aliyah and move to Israel. > > > > > > "Fishers" are, in that expected scenario, evangelists who try to > > > > > convert > > > > > Jews to Christianity and coax them to move to Israel. "Hunters" are > > > > > overt > > > > > anti-Semites who will come to hunt and kill those Jews who have not > > > > > listened > > > > > to the "fishers" and moved to Israel. > > > > > > John Hagee's controversial<http://www.talk2action.org/story/ > > > > > 2008/5/15/141520/281>late > > > > > 2005 "God sent Hitler" sermon, which in May 2008 caused > > > > > then-presidential candidate John McCain to > > > > > renounce<http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/us/politics/23hagee.html>a > > > > > long-sought political endorsement from Hagee, was more gratuitously > > > > > offensive, even, than the general public was aware. During the > > > > > internationally televised sermon, as Hagee asserted Adolf Hitler and > > > > > the > > > > > Nazis were hunters sent by God to chase Europe's Jews towards > > > > > Palestine, > > > > > pastor Hagee pantomimed holding a rifle aimed at, presumably, those > > > > > hunted > > > > > Jews. > > > > > > [*below: in internationally broadcast last 2005 sermon, Christians > > > > > United > > > > > For Israel founder John Hagee outlines his beliefs on the meaning of > > > > > the > > > > > Biblical scripture of Jeremiah 16:16*] > > > > > >http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/144111/what_sarah_palin%27s_%22je. > > > .. > > > > > > Paradoxically, while "fishers" such as John Hagee decry overt acts of > > > > > hatred > > > > > and violence directed at Jews, they also promote various anti-Jewish > > > > > myths, > > > > > slurs, and conspiracy theories that foster anti-Semitism. The same > > > > > grotesque > > > > > paradox surfaces in Sarah Palin's religious tendency as well. > > > > > > In September 2008, shortly after John McCain had picked Sarah Palin as > > > > > a > > > > > running mate, footage surfaced from an October 2005 ceremony, held at > > > > > what > > > > > many argue is by far Sarah Palin's most important church, the Wasilla > > > > > Assembly of God. In the footage, saved by a blogger before the church > > > > > partially scrubbed video and audio of past sermons and events from its > > > > > website archive, Kenyan evangelist Thomas Muthee officiated over a > > > > > strange > > > > > ceremony in which Muthee and two other pastors blessed and anointed > > > > > Sarah > > > > > Palin and called upon God to protect her from "every spirit of > > > > > witchcraft."<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBrU7SwQbe0#t=2m19s> > > > > > > Before the ceremony Muthee gave a short speech, during which he > > > > > advocated > > > > > that the Christian church should "infiltrate" seven key sectors of > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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