rigsy  what bush is being blamed for is staring a war  because he wanted a
war,,  the twin towers were just an excuse
allan

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:31 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes- Democrats blaming Bush for the prior eight years seems to forget:
> the first Twin Towers bombing, Khobar Tower bombing, East Africa
> embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, bombing of the USS Cole.
>
> On Dec 2, 8:40 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Who's to say they didn't? I long suspected the entire thing was a setup
> from
> > one side of the house or the other; the GOP to bring him down, or the
> Dems,
> > to distract from domestic security and foreign policy errors in the
> Clinton
> > administration.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:35 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I'm surprised the Russians didn't ply the White House with Monicas.
> >
> > > On 3 Dec, 00:58, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > You know people for as long as I can remember have called me
> strange,
> > > > > and for as long as I can remember my normal response as been 'No
> I'm
> > > > > quite normal, it is you lot that are strange'.  I say this
> jokingly, I
> > > > > have always regarded it in a joking manor, for I know that not all
> > > > > people want to think deeply (and some not even shollowly) about
> things
> > > > > and not all people 'get' where I'm copming from.
> >
> > > > > Increasingly though I really do think people are strange.  Like
> this
> > > > > little gem from Don.
> >
> > > > > 'Sure she deserves derision for contributing to the soiling of the
> > > > > American Presidency'
> >
> > > > > She deserves derision for saying yes to the most powefull man on
> the
> > > > > planet when he wanted sexual favours of her?
> >
> > > > > Well bugger me, what a strange attitude to have.
> >
> > > > I thought I was being chivalrous by not calling her what she was.  A
> > > > whore.  She was flashing her g-string in the corridors and e-mailed
> > > > her friends about "putting on her Presidential knee-pads" before she
> > > > even met the guy.  I've long since recognized I live in this world
> > > > with folks that have different opinions on what is right and what is
> > > > wrong.  Hell, I even refrain from judgement as much as possible
> > > > especially when I don't know the full facts.  The recent T. Woods
> > > > episode comes to mind.  But what we're talking about is well
> > > > researched and documented.  The girl was a skank.  Maybe she's grown
> > > > up now and handles herself better.  I hope so for her sake.  It's in
> > > > all our natures to be selfish but banging the teenaged chippy intern
> > > > in the Oval Office antechamber seems a bit extreme.  Why not get a
> > > > hotel and a real call girl?  His lack of discretion was appalling and
> > > > proves what little respect he has for the Office and, for that
> matter,
> > > > his wife.  Shameful all the way 'round I'd say.
> >
> > > > Your attitude is, however, not uncommon.  I see it as more evidence
> > > > that our western culture is going down the crapper.  Of course these
> > > > things happen all the time in business but in the past it was
> > > > considered a shameful weakness when you got busted.  Now it's cool to
> > > > be the Dawg.  Makes me ill.
> >
> > > > -Don
> >
> > > > > On 1 Dec, 22:17, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >> I'm biased?  Well yeah. Duh.  It might be worth your while to
> reread
> > > > >> your post here when you're feeling a bit calmer.  A little bit of
> the
> > > > >> pot calling the kettle black I think.  I disagree on Monica's
> motives.
> > > > >>  Women are collectors just as much as men are.  It's part of the
> > > > >> groupie mentality.  A cum stained dress is one hell of an
> autograph.
> > > > >> Clearly it was a memento.  You are missing the point when you
> blame
> > > > >> the girl.  Sure she deserves derision for contributing to the
> soiling
> > > > >> of the American Presidency but that hardly removes guilt from
> Clinton.
> > > > >>  She initially lied herself about the affair.  She only came clean
> > > > >> when the FBI told her Clinton was meeting privately with Ms.
> Mondale
> > > > >> and keeping her waiting at a security check point.  Jealousy had
> her
> > > > >> wagging her tongue; not political motivation.  I bet Arch can back
> me
> > > > >> up on this one.  The wife or girl friend will lie themselves into
> > > > >> prison for their man until they think he's cheating on them.  Then
> > > > >> it's pay back time.  Let's use Occam's Razor here and keep the
> > > > >> emotions in check; shall we?
> >
> > > > >> For the record I'm glad he wasn't removed from office.  Except for
> > > > >> being a sorry excuse for a man he was a pretty good president.  He
> had
> > > > >> a MUCH better grasp on economics then the current resident of 1600
> > > > >> Pennsylvania Ave.  From your earlier post you seem to agree with
> > > > >> former president Nixon.  "If the president does it; it's not
> illegal."
> > > > >>  I still think perjury is a very serious offense.  I'm sorry you
> > > > >> apparently disagree.  At least if that president is a Democrat.
> > > > >> Something tells me you wouldn't be so forgiving if that president
> was
> > > > >> a Republican.
> >
> > > > >> Don't forget I'm an individual.  In your off the rails diatribe
> you
> > > > >> seem to be lumping me in with every conservative you've ever had
> cause
> > > > >> to hate.  I have no enmity towards you personally and I hope you
> hold
> > > > >> none towards me.  It's your reasoning I have issues with.  I have
> been
> > > > >> ashamed about many things over the years but not about speaking
> truth
> > > > >> to power.  Nor am I ashamed of publicly expressing my support for
> > > > >> keeping as much of my money as I can.  How, when or even IF I use
> my
> > > > >> money to help others should be up to me and no one else.
>  Democracy
> > > > >> seems to be turning into some kind of nightmare 'mob rules'
> scenario
> > > > >> where the productive people with useful skills work for all the
> > > > >> deadbeats.  This kind of society is doomed to fail.
> >
> > > > >> Sorry I went off the reservation myself there a tad.  The purity
> > > > >> police will be displeased.
> >
> > > > >> -Don
> >
> > > > >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Justintruth <
> [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > Your so totally biased in your viewpoint Don.
> >
> > > > >> > You know that an extraordinary amount of money was spent trying
> to
> > > > >> > "get Clinton". The special prosecutor remember? Whitewater? etc
> etc
> > > > >> > etc etc. Years of attempted distortions and abuse of the legal
> > > system.
> > > > >> > Finally they "got him" in one of the oldest traps in the books -
> its
> > > > >> > called a honeypot - they trapped him with a woman.
> >
> > > > >> > Now you can tell this is true by reflecting on one point and one
> > > point
> > > > >> > alone. What woman do you know, who after getting a cum stain on
> her
> > > > >> > dress during a blow job, will, instead of rapidly getting it
> > > cleaned,
> > > > >> > preserve the stain? What possibly would make her do that? There
> is
> > > > >> > only one possible explanation. She wanted evidence. That was
> what
> > > she
> > > > >> > was there for. This was an operation conducted by Linda Trip
> running
> > > > >> > her operative Monica.
> >
> > > > >> > Now Clinton was trying to evade this massive trap and cornered
> tried
> > > > >> > to evade with semantics under oath... so now you "got him" ...
> > > > >> > suddenly you don't care about sex because you don't need it....
> you
> > > > >> > got him on perjury... or so you thought....you masked your shame
> in
> > > > >> > your audacity... you went for impeachment... it was a "high
> crime
> > > > >> > or..." Right?
> >
> > > > >> > I am not distorting here. This is the truth. A blind man could
> see
> > > it.
> >
> > > > >> > And you accuse *him* of distortion? Talk about taking a splinter
> out
> > > > >> > of someone else's eye when you have a log in your own!
> >
> > > > >> > What you are saying is just such a  complete distortion. You
> want to
> > > > >> > see a liar or a bullshitter, guy? Just look in the mirror. The
> real
> > > > >> > problem is the destruction of peoples lives that you have cost
> and
> > > the
> > > > >> > weakening of the ideals we require to remain free. This stuff
> has
> > > had
> > > > >> > consequences. Line the innocent dead up and drive by them in a
> car
> > > on
> > > > >> > a highway and you will take hours to pass them. Many of them
> > > children.
> > > > >> > But the worse has been the contamination of our ideals and the
> > > > >> > prostitution of bravery. You should be ashamed of yourself and
> what
> > > > >> > your "distortions" have caused.
> >
> > > > >> > ... and still it goes on....
> >
> > > > >> > On Nov 30, 3:20 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >> >> That was pretty cool.  Not sure if you're implying Rummy is
> lying
> > > here
> > > > >> >> 'cause if that's your point I'm totally missing it.  I remember
> the
> > > > >> >> Glass Box.  We had one at the local Jo Jo's which became a
> Denny's
> > > > >> >> about ten years ago.  It was fun to watch the kids try for the
> > > stuffed
> > > > >> >> monkey banging the cymbals together.  The image is a good
> analogy
> > > for
> > > > >> >> the global warmist's efforts to keep alive their failing
> 'science.'
> > > > >> >> Keep chasing that monkey or dragon or whatever if you want to I
> > > say.
> > > > >> >> It is wise to remember hope is a fragile thing.
> >
> > > > >> >> I think i just went Gabbyly enigmatic there.
> >
> > > > >> >> -Don
> >
> > > > >> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:53 PM, ornamentalmind
> >
> > > > >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >> >> > The Poetry of D.H. Rumsfeld
> > > > >> >> > Recent works by the secretary of defense.
> >
> > > > >> >> > By Hart SeelyPosted Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 1:03 PM ET
> >
> > > > >> >> > Rumsfeld's free-speaking verseSecretary of Defense Donald
> > > Rumsfeld is
> > > > >> >> > an accomplished man. Not only is he guiding the war in Iraq,
> he
> > > has
> > > > >> >> > been a pilot, a congressman, an ambassador, a businessman,
> and a
> > > civil
> > > > >> >> > servant. But few Americans know that he is also a poet.
> >
> > > > >> >> > Until now, the secretary's poetry has found only a small and
> > > skeptical
> > > > >> >> > audience: the Pentagon press corps. Every day, Rumsfeld
> regales
> > > > >> >> > reporters with his jazzy, impromptu riffs. Few of them seem
> to
> > > > >> >> > appreciate it.
> >
> > > > >> >> > But we should all be listening. Rumsfeld's poetry is
> paradoxical:
> > > It
> > > > >> >> > uses playful language to address the most somber subjects:
> war,
> > > > >> >> > terrorism, mortality. Much of it is about indirection
> >
> > ...
> >
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