Like Pearl Harbor was an "excuse"? Are you referring to neocon daydreams about the Middle East? It's been about oil- maybe longer than we admit considering the Versailles Treaty, embargos against Japan and Germany, interference with the nationalization of Iran's oil, etc.//Anyway, maybe one could add the Balkan Wars of the 1990's to the list. I remember reading about a proposed pipeline going through the Balkans from the Caucasus but have no notion where or when- this also has affected the Levant- Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Israel.
On Dec 4, 2:35 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > rigsy what bush is being blamed for is staring a war because he wanted a > war,, the twin towers were just an excuse > allan > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:31 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes- Democrats blaming Bush for the prior eight years seems to forget: > > the first Twin Towers bombing, Khobar Tower bombing, East Africa > > embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, bombing of the USS Cole. > > > On Dec 2, 8:40 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Who's to say they didn't? I long suspected the entire thing was a setup > > from > > > one side of the house or the other; the GOP to bring him down, or the > > Dems, > > > to distract from domestic security and foreign policy errors in the > > Clinton > > > administration. > > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:35 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I'm surprised the Russians didn't ply the White House with Monicas. > > > > > On 3 Dec, 00:58, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > You know people for as long as I can remember have called me > > strange, > > > > > > and for as long as I can remember my normal response as been 'No > > I'm > > > > > > quite normal, it is you lot that are strange'. I say this > > jokingly, I > > > > > > have always regarded it in a joking manor, for I know that not all > > > > > > people want to think deeply (and some not even shollowly) about > > things > > > > > > and not all people 'get' where I'm copming from. > > > > > > > Increasingly though I really do think people are strange. Like > > this > > > > > > little gem from Don. > > > > > > > 'Sure she deserves derision for contributing to the soiling of the > > > > > > American Presidency' > > > > > > > She deserves derision for saying yes to the most powefull man on > > the > > > > > > planet when he wanted sexual favours of her? > > > > > > > Well bugger me, what a strange attitude to have. > > > > > > I thought I was being chivalrous by not calling her what she was. A > > > > > whore. She was flashing her g-string in the corridors and e-mailed > > > > > her friends about "putting on her Presidential knee-pads" before she > > > > > even met the guy. I've long since recognized I live in this world > > > > > with folks that have different opinions on what is right and what is > > > > > wrong. Hell, I even refrain from judgement as much as possible > > > > > especially when I don't know the full facts. The recent T. Woods > > > > > episode comes to mind. But what we're talking about is well > > > > > researched and documented. The girl was a skank. Maybe she's grown > > > > > up now and handles herself better. I hope so for her sake. It's in > > > > > all our natures to be selfish but banging the teenaged chippy intern > > > > > in the Oval Office antechamber seems a bit extreme. Why not get a > > > > > hotel and a real call girl? His lack of discretion was appalling and > > > > > proves what little respect he has for the Office and, for that > > matter, > > > > > his wife. Shameful all the way 'round I'd say. > > > > > > Your attitude is, however, not uncommon. I see it as more evidence > > > > > that our western culture is going down the crapper. Of course these > > > > > things happen all the time in business but in the past it was > > > > > considered a shameful weakness when you got busted. Now it's cool to > > > > > be the Dawg. Makes me ill. > > > > > > -Don > > > > > > > On 1 Dec, 22:17, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> I'm biased? Well yeah. Duh. It might be worth your while to > > reread > > > > > >> your post here when you're feeling a bit calmer. A little bit of > > the > > > > > >> pot calling the kettle black I think. I disagree on Monica's > > motives. > > > > > >> Women are collectors just as much as men are. It's part of the > > > > > >> groupie mentality. A cum stained dress is one hell of an > > autograph. > > > > > >> Clearly it was a memento. You are missing the point when you > > blame > > > > > >> the girl. Sure she deserves derision for contributing to the > > soiling > > > > > >> of the American Presidency but that hardly removes guilt from > > Clinton. > > > > > >> She initially lied herself about the affair. She only came clean > > > > > >> when the FBI told her Clinton was meeting privately with Ms. > > Mondale > > > > > >> and keeping her waiting at a security check point. Jealousy had > > her > > > > > >> wagging her tongue; not political motivation. I bet Arch can back > > me > > > > > >> up on this one. The wife or girl friend will lie themselves into > > > > > >> prison for their man until they think he's cheating on them. Then > > > > > >> it's pay back time. Let's use Occam's Razor here and keep the > > > > > >> emotions in check; shall we? > > > > > > >> For the record I'm glad he wasn't removed from office. Except for > > > > > >> being a sorry excuse for a man he was a pretty good president. He > > had > > > > > >> a MUCH better grasp on economics then the current resident of 1600 > > > > > >> Pennsylvania Ave. From your earlier post you seem to agree with > > > > > >> former president Nixon. "If the president does it; it's not > > illegal." > > > > > >> I still think perjury is a very serious offense. I'm sorry you > > > > > >> apparently disagree. At least if that president is a Democrat. > > > > > >> Something tells me you wouldn't be so forgiving if that president > > was > > > > > >> a Republican. > > > > > > >> Don't forget I'm an individual. In your off the rails diatribe > > you > > > > > >> seem to be lumping me in with every conservative you've ever had > > cause > > > > > >> to hate. I have no enmity towards you personally and I hope you > > hold > > > > > >> none towards me. It's your reasoning I have issues with. I have > > been > > > > > >> ashamed about many things over the years but not about speaking > > truth > > > > > >> to power. Nor am I ashamed of publicly expressing my support for > > > > > >> keeping as much of my money as I can. How, when or even IF I use > > my > > > > > >> money to help others should be up to me and no one else. > > Democracy > > > > > >> seems to be turning into some kind of nightmare 'mob rules' > > scenario > > > > > >> where the productive people with useful skills work for all the > > > > > >> deadbeats. This kind of society is doomed to fail. > > > > > > >> Sorry I went off the reservation myself there a tad. The purity > > > > > >> police will be displeased. > > > > > > >> -Don > > > > > > >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Justintruth < > > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > Your so totally biased in your viewpoint Don. > > > > > > >> > You know that an extraordinary amount of money was spent trying > > to > > > > > >> > "get Clinton". The special prosecutor remember? Whitewater? etc > > etc > > > > > >> > etc etc. Years of attempted distortions and abuse of the legal > > > > system. > > > > > >> > Finally they "got him" in one of the oldest traps in the books - > > its > > > > > >> > called a honeypot - they trapped him with a woman. > > > > > > >> > Now you can tell this is true by reflecting on one point and one > > > > point > > > > > >> > alone. What woman do you know, who after getting a cum stain on > > her > > > > > >> > dress during a blow job, will, instead of rapidly getting it > > > > cleaned, > > > > > >> > preserve the stain? What possibly would make her do that? There > > is > > > > > >> > only one possible explanation. She wanted evidence. That was > > what > > > > she > > > > > >> > was there for. This was an operation conducted by Linda Trip > > running > > > > > >> > her operative Monica. > > > > > > >> > Now Clinton was trying to evade this massive trap and cornered > > tried > > > > > >> > to evade with semantics under oath... so now you "got him" ... > > > > > >> > suddenly you don't care about sex because you don't need it.... > > you > > > > > >> > got him on perjury... or so you thought....you masked your shame > > in > > > > > >> > your audacity... you went for impeachment... it was a "high > > crime > > > > > >> > or..." Right? > > > > > > >> > I am not distorting here. This is the truth. A blind man could > > see > > > > it. > > > > > > >> > And you accuse *him* of distortion? Talk about taking a splinter > > out > > > > > >> > of someone else's eye when you have a log in your own! > > > > > > >> > What you are saying is just such a complete distortion. You > > want to > > > > > >> > see a liar or a bullshitter, guy? Just look in the mirror. The > > real > > > > > >> > problem is the destruction of peoples lives that you have cost > > and > > > > the > > > > > >> > weakening of the ideals we require to remain free. This stuff > > has > > > > had > > > > > >> > consequences. Line the innocent dead up and drive by them in a > > car > > > > on > > > > > >> > a highway and you will take hours to pass them. Many of them > > > > children. > > > > > >> > But the worse has been the contamination of our ideals and the > > > > > >> > prostitution of bravery. You should be ashamed of yourself and > > what > > > > > >> > your "distortions" have caused. > > > > > > >> > ... and still it goes on.... > > > > > > >> > On Nov 30, 3:20 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> >> That was pretty cool. Not sure if you're implying Rummy is > > lying > > > > here > > > > > >> >> 'cause if that's your point I'm totally missing it. I remember > > the > > > > > >> >> Glass Box. We had one at the local Jo Jo's which became a > > Denny's > > > > > >> >> about ten years ago. It was fun to watch the kids try for the > > > > stuffed > > > > > >> >> monkey banging the cymbals together. The image is a good > > analogy > > > > for > > > > > >> >> the global warmist's efforts to keep alive their failing > > 'science.' > > > > > >> >> Keep chasing that monkey or dragon or whatever if you want to I > > > > say. > > > > > >> >> It is wise to remember hope is a fragile thing. > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
