There are several problems, one being the level of understanding in
jury pools, ie; the IQ factor.  There is much more emphasis put on
"convincing" than actually proving guilt or innocence.  Not to mention
the elevation of prosecutors to district attorneys to mayor, governor,
senate seat, congress and possible presidential seat.  Its scary to us
but people that crave these positions don't really care how they get
there.  Further more it is completely obvious that the vindication of
hundreds of convicts and death row inmates reveals the ugly truth
about the "justice?" system and all it's flaws.

On Dec 6, 12:11 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> There are too many frightening miscarriages in our legal systems.
> Easy enough to make thing thing 'Italian' - yet here we have had
> plenty and even in Texas people are worrying about the death sentence
> because of so much uncertainty about convicting the right people.
>
> On 6 Dec, 16:44, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I'm always suspect of criminal types changing stories and plea bargain
> > deals with overzealous prosecutors.
> > It might be likely that Rudy killed her because she didn't want, or no
> > longer wanted to have any relation with him.  It won't be the first
> > deal made by someone trying to get a lessor sentence.  25 years is a
> > lot better than Life in prison for a 20 year old.  At 45 he'll still
> > be able to have a life.
>
> > Guede came to Perugia at the age of five with his father,[57] Pacome
> > Roger Guede.[58] His father left Italy when Guede was 16, and he was
> > informally adopted by the family of a wealthy local businessman, Paolo
> > Caporali.[57] Caporali stated that he had been disappointed by Guede's
> > behaviour, describing him as a "tremendous liar", skipping school and
> > being reluctant to do any work.
>
> > DNA tests indicate that Guede had sex with Kercher before her murder
> > [59] and that faeces found in the toilet were his.[60]
>
> > Knox has confirmed meeting Guede a few times. Guede has been described
> > as a drug dealer and a thief.
>
> > So here we have a guy who had sex with the victim just before the
> > murder and who then "Conveniently" claims to have been listening to
> > his ipod when Knox and Sollecito came home.
>
> > It might be that Rudy raped Kercher, she threatened to call the
> > police, he choked her and then slit her throat followed by a elaborate
> > "lie" that would unfortunately ensnare two innocent people.  He then
> > fled the country.
>
> > On Dec 5, 11:31 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > The evidence as reported by The Telegraph is very thin and Rudy
> > > actually told someone she wasn't there at the time of the murder,
> > > before changing his story.
>
> > > On 6 Dec, 03:49, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > >  With their wise and terribly straight leader I can understand why the 
> > > > press are so biased. It's a good thing there was no
> > > > double standard.
>
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Slip Disc <[email protected]>
> > > > To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Sat, Dec 5, 2009 9:53 pm
> > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Amanda Knox
>
> > > > To shed some light.......
>
> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Meredith_Kercher
>
> > > > Now you see the Black Rudy had fled to Germany after the murder and
> > > > was extradited to Italy, but why did he flee?
> > > > The conflicting stories create such a confusion that the only logical
> > > > thing to do is lock them all up. No?
>
> > > > On Dec 5, 9:19 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > The case seemed forever in the news, yet I know nothing of the actual
> > > > > case.  I am not familiar with cartwheeling as a means of lie detection
> > > > > - clearly advanced forensics.  Has my veracity increased now I am
> > > > > incapable of them, perhaps, other than as some would say, in argument
> > > > > itself?
>
> > > > > On 5 Dec, 11:26, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I don't know what to think of it but one thing is for sure, someone
> > > > > > was murdered and she didn't slice her own throat.  The Ivory coast
> > > > > > black guy has a criminal history and admits being there while the
> > > > > > other two claim to have been somewhere else watching a movie before
> > > > > > returning to the apartment.  The DNA on the knife was supposedly too
> > > > > > scant to be reliable, however, I'd like to know why it was washed 
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > bleach, but then I wonder why anyone would kill someone and then 
> > > > > > take
> > > > > > the knife home instead of tossing it out somewhere, then again maybe
> > > > > > she used it to cut up a tomato.  It's a very complex case with many
> > > > > > loose ends and speculation.  The Italian judicial system surely 
> > > > > > needs
> > > > > > overhaul with special attention to due process. Something went
> > > > > > terribly wrong at some point and hopefully one or all three sooner 
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > later will confess to the actual truth.  They each have a long time 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > think it over.
>
> > > > > > On Dec 5, 4:09 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Has anyone any idea at all whether this American girl is guilty of
> > > > > > > murder or not?  She is guilty of trying to pin it on the nearest 
> > > > > > > black
> > > > > > > guy and, apparently of doing cartwheels in a police station.  Our
> > > > > > > media has told us she is good looking (passable average on the
> > > > > > > footage), there was some of her DNA on a kitchen knife and that's 
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > apart from a pile of hints at 'sex scandal'.  There has been no
> > > > > > > reporting of any evidence.
>
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