Wait a minute: You have made a verdict and guilty as seen...the key word is(media)I agree there is some things that is not known. they need to judge this well
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected] > wrote: > Hi SD! > Your patriotism is blinding you Slip! And leave my wife out of this > ok! Usually you are spot on, but not this time, because somebody must > pay for that horrible crime, and if it is one from your country it > makes no difference. > Manfraco > > On Dec 7, 1:01 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Amanda Knox has been called the devil with blue eyes from the Italian > > > media, so there must be a lot going on that we don't know; this makes > > > me wonder whether one should learn about her extended family whether > > > they use their very strong personality to overrule other people. <<MFE > > > > That is totally and utterly ridiculous! > > The media calls someone a devil and so there must be more going on > > that we don't know about? sic! > > You actually buy into the media hype and sheer bullshit? > > If anyone is guilty it is your wife, who is guilty of judgment. There > > are too many variables and inconsistencies to pass judgment on this > > case. We can only present possibilities. If the Italian court system > > had it right there wouldn't be any international disagreement with > > their judicial system. I'm extremely hopeful that I will never be on > > trial but if ever I am I will be equally hopeful that there aren't any > > people on the jury like your wife who thinks she can pass judgment > > based on following a case through media reporting. That's pathetic! > > > > On Dec 6, 5:16 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody! > > > Amanda Knox has been called the devil with blue eyes from the Italian > > > media, so there must be a lot going on that we don't know; this makes > > > me wonder whether one should learn about her extended family whether > > > they use their very strong personality to overrule other people. > > > My wife has followed this murder case, and in her own simple ways > > > believes that Amanda Knox may very well be guilty. > > > I am pretty sure that the Italian court is right they took a very long > > > time to get it right, therefore if in the future nobody of the three > > > people involved co fesses of the murder, things are just the way the > > > court has said. > > > Just because she is an American girl doesn't mean she is innocent. > > > Just forget the American bit the law is the same for everybody. > > > My regards to you all > > > Manfraco > > > > > On Dec 7, 9:26 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > There are several problems, one being the level of understanding in > > > > jury pools, ie; the IQ factor. There is much more emphasis put on > > > > "convincing" than actually proving guilt or innocence. Not to > mention > > > > the elevation of prosecutors to district attorneys to mayor, > governor, > > > > senate seat, congress and possible presidential seat. Its scary to > us > > > > but people that crave these positions don't really care how they get > > > > there. Further more it is completely obvious that the vindication of > > > > hundreds of convicts and death row inmates reveals the ugly truth > > > > about the "justice?" system and all it's flaws. > > > > > > On Dec 6, 12:11 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > There are too many frightening miscarriages in our legal systems. > > > > > Easy enough to make thing thing 'Italian' - yet here we have had > > > > > plenty and even in Texas people are worrying about the death > sentence > > > > > because of so much uncertainty about convicting the right people. > > > > > > > On 6 Dec, 16:44, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm always suspect of criminal types changing stories and plea > bargain > > > > > > deals with overzealous prosecutors. > > > > > > It might be likely that Rudy killed her because she didn't want, > or no > > > > > > longer wanted to have any relation with him. It won't be the > first > > > > > > deal made by someone trying to get a lessor sentence. 25 years > is a > > > > > > lot better than Life in prison for a 20 year old. At 45 he'll > still > > > > > > be able to have a life. > > > > > > > > Guede came to Perugia at the age of five with his father,[57] > Pacome > > > > > > Roger Guede.[58] His father left Italy when Guede was 16, and he > was > > > > > > informally adopted by the family of a wealthy local businessman, > Paolo > > > > > > Caporali.[57] Caporali stated that he had been disappointed by > Guede's > > > > > > behaviour, describing him as a "tremendous liar", skipping school > and > > > > > > being reluctant to do any work. > > > > > > > > DNA tests indicate that Guede had sex with Kercher before her > murder > > > > > > [59] and that faeces found in the toilet were his.[60] > > > > > > > > Knox has confirmed meeting Guede a few times. Guede has been > described > > > > > > as a drug dealer and a thief. > > > > > > > > So here we have a guy who had sex with the victim just before the > > > > > > murder and who then "Conveniently" claims to have been listening > to > > > > > > his ipod when Knox and Sollecito came home. > > > > > > > > It might be that Rudy raped Kercher, she threatened to call the > > > > > > police, he choked her and then slit her throat followed by a > elaborate > > > > > > "lie" that would unfortunately ensnare two innocent people. He > then > > > > > > fled the country. > > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 11:31 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The evidence as reported by The Telegraph is very thin and Rudy > > > > > > > actually told someone she wasn't there at the time of the > murder, > > > > > > > before changing his story. > > > > > > > > > On 6 Dec, 03:49, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > With their wise and terribly straight leader I can > understand why the press are so biased. It's a good thing there was no > > > > > > > > double standard. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Slip Disc <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sat, Dec 5, 2009 9:53 pm > > > > > > > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Amanda Knox > > > > > > > > > > To shed some light....... > > > > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Meredith_Kercher > > > > > > > > > > Now you see the Black Rudy had fled to Germany after the > murder and > > > > > > > > was extradited to Italy, but why did he flee? > > > > > > > > The conflicting stories create such a confusion that the only > logical > > > > > > > > thing to do is lock them all up. No? > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 9:19 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The case seemed forever in the news, yet I know nothing of > the actual > > > > > > > > > case. I am not familiar with cartwheeling as a means of > lie detection > > > > > > > > > - clearly advanced forensics. Has my veracity increased > now I am > > > > > > > > > incapable of them, perhaps, other than as some would say, > in argument > > > > > > > > > itself? > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 Dec, 11:26, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what to think of it but one thing is for > sure, someone > > > > > > > > > > was murdered and she didn't slice her own throat. The > Ivory coast > > > > > > > > > > black guy has a criminal history and admits being there > while the > > > > > > > > > > other two claim to have been somewhere else watching a > movie before > > > > > > > > > > returning to the apartment. The DNA on the knife was > supposedly too > > > > > > > > > > scant to be reliable, however, I'd like to know why it > was washed with > > > > > > > > > > bleach, but then I wonder why anyone would kill someone > and then take > > > > > > > > > > the knife home instead of tossing it out somewhere, then > again maybe > > > > > > > > > > she used it to cut up a tomato. It's a very complex case > with many > > > > > > > > > > loose ends and speculation. The Italian judicial system > surely needs > > > > > > > > > > overhaul with special attention to due process. Something > went > > > > > > > > > > terribly wrong at some point and hopefully one or all > three sooner or > > > > > > > > > > later will confess to the actual truth. They each have a > long time to > > > > > > > > > > think it over. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 4:09 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone any idea at all whether this American girl > is guilty of > > > > > > > > > > > murder or not? She is guilty of trying to pin it on > the nearest black > > > > > > > > > > > guy and, apparently of doing cartwheels in a police > station. Our > > > > > > > > > > > media has told us she is good looking (passable average > on the > > > > > > > > > > > footage), there was some of her DNA on a kitchen knife > and that's it > > > > > > > > > > > apart from a pile of hints at 'sex scandal'. 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