This is the position we need to be working from Orn. I was at a session for self-employed people yesterday and BS aside you could feel that people present wanted to contribute not just scrabble for cash. Yet sadly this was what the session was about. My own desire not to work for anyone else is driven by a desire not to be part of quite dreadful conditions in employment that deny my integrity (flawed as I accept it is) and almost any chance to be human. I sort of want something a bit like the 'free table' of Plato or Aristotle, though am nauseated by any thought of a slavery base for this. I like Kibbutz ideas. There are deeper, wider issues though. I feel privileged when you bring matters such as this to our table mate. And when Chris brings reminders that there is an industry of such. By the time I've done my thinking on the ideal, I recognise there is much organisation to be done and that we do not reach an ideal. Sooner or later issues like population control enter and one realises the ideal brings practical responsibilities. This should not stop us.
On 8 Dec, 14:18, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > A very interesting view: > > ... > MUHAMMAD YUNUS: I believe that, totally, poverty is not part of human > being, that is my first premise, so if it not part of human being the > real human being will emerge some day, it is the stupidity of human > being that created poverty, so stupidity can not go on, the real > creativity of human being will take over the stupidity and it will > completely eliminate it and this is the century when it will happen. > And it can be done, it's not a, a kind of a pipe dream or some > fantastic thing, it's possible because it's us who make the difference > and if we can create the structures to do that; people will raise > themselves out of poverty, just like that. Human beings created to do > much bigger things than struggle with food and clothes and some tiny > little thing. These are matters of past, these are pre-historic thing. > Real history will begin when there are no such things. > ... > > The entire interview is > at:http://www.abc.net.au/tv/elders/transcripts/s2757468.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
